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Raoul III

Male Abt 1010 - 1064  (~ 54 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Raoul III was born Abt 1010, of, Vexin, Normandy, France; died 1064.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: ED1287E22A1725438BA539E222935093F48B

    Raoul — de Bar-Sur-Aube, Adele. Adele was born Abt 1014, of, Vexin, Normandy, France; died 1043. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 2. de Valois (Vexin), Adele  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1032/1036, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 1080.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  de Valois (Vexin), Adele Descendancy chart to this point (1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1032/1036, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 1080.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 9FFR-22
    • _UID: 6B619FDF5C012A47855EEF38F45F8D787ACD

    Notes:

    Also of Vexin, Normandy, France.

    Adele married De Vermandois, Count Herbert IV / V Bef 1068, , , , France. Herbert (son of De Vermandois, Count Otho and Living) was born Abt 1028/1032, of, Vermandois, Normandy, France; died Abt 1080, , , France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 3. De Vermandois, Eudes  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1060, of, Valois, Bretagne, France.
    2. 4. De Vermandois, Gerardus  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1064, of, Valois, Bretagne, France.
    3. 5. Capet, Comtesse de VERMANDOIS Adélaïde  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1065, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 23 Sep 1120, Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  De Vermandois, Eudes Descendancy chart to this point (2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1060, of, Valois, Bretagne, France.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 9G21-80
    • _UID: E4B786BA2D7A8949A63286ACAFD1FC9D77D6

    Eudes — Havise. Havise was born Abt 1062. [Group Sheet]


  2. 4.  De Vermandois, Gerardus Descendancy chart to this point (2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1064, of, Valois, Bretagne, France.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 9G81-WV
    • _UID: FBEBF4675FB5FA4A98F70F51C5A39757DE93


  3. 5.  Capet, Comtesse de VERMANDOIS Adélaïde Descendancy chart to this point (2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1065, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 23 Sep 1120, Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8XJ9-R2
    • _FSFTID: 99CK-VH2
    • _UID: 78DA7772AF0BE148BCF2D45693CA6035E854
    • _UID: CBEA2F0085AE4CB19AAD2D2ED53D44DFEBD0

    Notes:

    Adelaide, daughter and heir of Herbert, COUNT OF VERMANDOIS and VALOIS. [Complete Peerage

    (Research):Ad?le married Hugh "Magnus" CAPET Duc de Vermandois & Bourgogne, son of Henri I CAPET King of the Franks and Anna Agnesa Yaroslavna RURIK Grand Duchess of Kiev, in 1067 in France (Hugh "Magnus" CAPET Duc de Vermandois & Bourgogne was born in 1053 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France , died on 18 Oct 1101 in Tarsus, , Cilicie and was buried in Cathedral of St. Paul de Tarse, Turkey.)

    Adèle also married Cte Renaud (Reinald) II DE CLERMONT-EN-BEAUVAISIS, son of Hugh DE CREIL comte de Clermont and Margaret (Marguerite) DE MONTDIDIER, in 1103 in 2nd husband 1st wife (Cte Renaud (Reinald) II DE CLERMONT-EN-BEAUVAISIS was born about 1080 in Clermont-en-Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France and died in 1162

    Death place also given as Meulan, D-Sens, France.

    SURNAME: Also shown as Vermandois

    GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Adele (Adelaide) Countess of

    BIRTH: Also shown as Born Abt 1050/1061

    DEATH: Also shown as Died Vermandois, Normandy, France.

    FamilySearch showed this additional information:
    Death - Date: 28 Sep 1120

    Adélaïde married Capet, Duc de Vermandois et de Bourgogne Hugh Abt 1064, France. Hugh (son of Capet, King Of France Henry I and Rurik, Grand Duchess of Kiev Anna Agnesa Yaroslavna, son of Capet, King Of France Henry I and Queen/France Anna Agnesa) was born 1053, Reims, Marne, Champagne, France; died 18 Oct 1101, Tarsus, , Cilicie; was buried , : Cathedral of St. Paul de Tarse, Turkey. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 6. Capet, Agnes  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1065, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died Aft 1125.
    2. 7. Capet, Constance  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1069, of, Valois, Bretagne, France.
    3. 8. Capet, Maud Matilda  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1071, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 1080.
    4. 9. Capet, Count Raoul I  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1073, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 14 Oct 1152; was buried , St Arnoul, Crepy.
    5. 10. Capet, Lord of Chaumont Henry  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1075, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 1130.
    6. 11. Capet, Simon  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1077, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 10 Feb 1148, , Selencie; was buried , Orcamp Abbey.
    7. 12. Capet, Beatrix  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1079, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died Aft 1144.
    8. 13. Capet, Countess of Leicester, de Vermandois Elizabeth  Descendancy chart to this point was born 13 Feb 1080, Valois now Oise, Picardy, France; died 17 Feb 1146, St. Nicaise, Meulan, Desens, France; was buried 17 Feb 1131, Lewes, Sussex, England.
    9. 14. Capet, Mahaut  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1083.
    10. 15. Capet  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1085, of, Valois, Bretagne, France.
    11. 16. Capet, William  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1087, of, Valois, France; died Abt 1096.


Generation: 4

  1. 6.  Capet, Agnes Descendancy chart to this point (5.Adélaïde3, 2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1065, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died Aft 1125.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8XJ9-S7
    • _FSFTID: KZ6F-47K
    • _UID: 09D13A6ED6A5E14E80D1050FC0100F5FCF05

    Agnes — Marcis Marquis del Vast. was born Abt 1063; died 1125/1130. [Group Sheet]


  2. 7.  Capet, Constance Descendancy chart to this point (5.Adélaïde3, 2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1069, of, Valois, Bretagne, France.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8XJ9-TD
    • _FSFTID: LDMR-MJS
    • _UID: 5554AA1E178D2240B083A97D559D303A2C06

    Constance married de Laferte-Gaucher, Godefroi (Gottfried) Abt 1100. Godefroi was born Abt 1067. [Group Sheet]


  3. 8.  Capet, Maud Matilda Descendancy chart to this point (5.Adélaïde3, 2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1071, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 1080.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8XJ9-VK
    • _FSFTID: K8Y4-QHG
    • _UID: C552F9F156553C48B192FD4F7D19763F0AF1

    Maud married de Beaugency, Raoul Abt 1111, BEAUGENCY, Loiret, France. Raoul was born Abt 1082, of, BEAUGENCY, Loiret, France; died 1130. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 17. de Beaugency, Agnes  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1112, BEAUGENCY, Loiret, France.

  4. 9.  Capet, Count Raoul I Descendancy chart to this point (5.Adélaïde3, 2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1073, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 14 Oct 1152; was buried , St Arnoul, Crepy.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8XJ9-WQ
    • _FSFTID: LCTX-HKP
    • _UID: 06182A95CF7FD048B121904DBFA55501AC5C

    Notes:

    FamilySearch showed this additional information:
    Name - Description: Ralph de Vermandois

    Raoul married de Blois, Eleonore 1124/1125; divorced Yes, date unknown. Eleonore (daughter of Count Of Blois Etienne Henry and De Normandie, Princess/England Adelidis) was born Abt 1104, of, Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, France; died 14 Oct 1141/1142. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 18. Capet, Hugh  Descendancy chart to this point was born 9 Apr 1127; died 4 Nov 1212, Cersroy.

    Raoul married de Poitou, Alix 1142; divorced Yes, date unknown. Alix was born Abt 1075. [Group Sheet]

    Raoul married de Lothringen, Laurette 1152. Laurette was born Abt 1075; died Abt 1175. [Group Sheet]


  5. 10.  Capet, Lord of Chaumont Henry Descendancy chart to this point (5.Adélaïde3, 2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1075, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 1130.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8XJ9-XW
    • _FSFTID: MVT4-VYH
    • _UID: 7FFC2F7E1AA6E2438872A67A1BA441769D29


  6. 11.  Capet, Simon Descendancy chart to this point (5.Adélaïde3, 2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1077, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 10 Feb 1148, , Selencie; was buried , Orcamp Abbey.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8XJ9-Z3
    • _FSFTID: 9H6Q-VN1
    • _UID: 9D0F8B89B82DB64C8FAA1CA39996711C5BB0


  7. 12.  Capet, Beatrix Descendancy chart to this point (5.Adélaïde3, 2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1079, of, Valois, Bretagne, France; died Aft 1144.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8XJB-07
    • _FSFTID: LC8R-4QP
    • _UID: BBD88FA79A3A9042BE7432E062333E5CE2EE

    Beatrix — Gournay, Hugh Iii de. Hugh was born Abt 1077; died 1180. [Group Sheet]


  8. 13.  Capet, Countess of Leicester, de Vermandois Elizabeth Descendancy chart to this point (5.Adélaïde3, 2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born 13 Feb 1080, Valois now Oise, Picardy, France; died 17 Feb 1146, St. Nicaise, Meulan, Desens, France; was buried 17 Feb 1131, Lewes, Sussex, England.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: HK9H-21
    • _FSFTID: MXWH-HJ8
    • _UID: 007A4D56605B234AB97D5498404A1CE0ED34
    • _UID: 1B4BFE23B3DBCE4594862890B38779D48137
    • _UID: 2273BCE14BEFE14D9527A336CD98CBC423C9
    • _UID: DA35F25DCA04418485CA9545B7ECBE9E19C1
    • Birth: Abt 1058, of, Vermandois, Normandy, France
    • Birth: Abt 1083, of, Valois, Bretagne, France
    • Death: 13 Feb 1131, Meulan, D-Sens, France, or England

    Notes:

    aka de VERMANDOIS

    was a member of royalty, nobility or aristocracy in Europe.


    Isabel (or Elisabeth), widow of Robert (de BEAUMONT), COUNT OF MEULAN and 1st EARL OF LEICESTER (died 5 June 1118), daughter of Hugh DE CR?PI (styled "the Great"), COUNT OF VERMANDOIS (younger son of HENRY I, KING OF FRANCE), by Adelaide, daughter and heir of Herbert, COUNT OF VERMANDOIS and VALOIS. Isabel survived him and with the consent of her son the 3rd Earl gave the church of Dorking to Lewes priory. She died probably before July 1147. [Complete Peerage XII/1:495-6)
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    Isabel de Vermandois, Countess of Leicester (c.1081 ?- 13 Feb 1131) was distantly related to English kings, Norman dukes, and Flanders counts. By Carolingian ancestry, she was also related to almost every major nobleman in Western Europe. Nevertheless, Isabel was very much her own person.

    Elizabeth married Meulan around aged 9 or 11.But the old count was at least 35 years her senior ... Yes. Unusual even for this time period. But he was a nobleman of some significance in France, who inherited lands from his maternal uncle Henry, Count of Meulan. He also fought his first battle with distinction at Hastings when he was only 16. He didn't have an English earldom when they got married, but his younger brother was Henry de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Warwick.

    The marriage produced several children, including most notably two sons who were twins (born 1104), and thus remarkable in both surviving and both becoming important noblemen. They are better known tohistorians of this period as the Beaumont twins, or as Waleran de Beaumont, Count of Meulan and his younger twin Robert Bossu (the Humpback) or Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester. (Readers of Ellis Peters' Cadfael historical mystery series will find both twins mentioned frequently). Another notable child of this marriage was Elisabeth or Isabel de Beaumont, one of the youngest mistresses of Henry I of England and later mother (by her first marriage) of Richard Strongbow.
    Some contemporaries were surprised that the aging Count of Meulan (b circa 1049/1050) was able to father so many children, given how busy he was with turmoil in England and Normandy from 1102 to 1110 (or later) and acting as Henry I's unofficial minister. One explanation is offered below; another might simply be an indication of his good health and energy (expended mostly in dashing from one troublespot in Normandy to England back to Normandy).

    William II of England died suddenly in a purported hunting accident, and was hastily succeeded not by the expected heir but by the youngest brother Henry. This seizure of the throne led to an abortiveinvasion by the older brother Duke Robert of Normandy, followed by an uneasy truce between the brothers, followed by trouble in both England and Normandy for some time (stirred up by Duke Robert, andby an exiled nobleman Robert of Bellême, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury). Finally, Henry invaded Normandy and in the Battle of Tinchebray (September 28, 1106) destroyed organized opposition to his takeover of Normandy and imprisoned his ineffectual older brother for his lifetime. Meulan and his brother Warwick were apparently supporters of Henry during this entire period, and Meulan was rewarded with theearldom of Leicester in 1103. By 1107, Meulan was in possession of substantial lands in three domains. In 1111, he was able to revenge himself on the attack on his seat Meulan by Louis VI of France. He avenged himself by harrying Paris.

    Emma de Beaumont (c.1102)

    Waleran IV de Beaumont, Count of Meulan (c.1104)

    Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester (c.1104)

    Hugh de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Bedford (c. 1106)

    Adeline de Beaumont (c.1107), m.1 Hugh IV, 4th Lord of Montfort-sur-Risle

    Richard de Granville of Bideford (d. 1147)

    Aubree (or Alberee) de Beaumont (b ca 1109) m. Hugh II of Châteauneuf-en-Thimerais

    Maud de Beaumont (b ca 1111) m. William Lovel

    Isabel de Beaumont (b Aft. 1102)m.1 Gilbert de Clare, 1st Earl of Pembroke

    Hervé de Montmorency, Constable of Ireland


    Marriage to William de Warenne

    m.2 1118 William de Warenne II (c.1065 - 11 May 1138)before 1118 France

    Elizabeth, apparently tired of her aging husband at some point. The historian Planche says (1874) she was seduced by or fell in love with William de Warenne (c. 1071-11 May 1138).It was said he wanted a royal bride, and Elizabeth met his requirements, even though she was also another man's wife.

    In 1115, Warenne abducted the Countess to hide their long-standing affair But eventually, the old Count of Meulan died -- supposedly of chagrin and mortification from publicly humiliation -- at the Abbey of Preaux, Normandy on 5 June 1118 So Elizabeth got to marry her lover after all.
    Elizabeth and Warenne had several children -- all born during her marriage to Meulan. One daughter was born when they were living out of wedlock (1115-1118). It is unclear if it was Ada de Warenne.
    Issue

    William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey and Warenne (b. 1119 1147) dau Isabelle de Warenne, Countess of Surrey m.1 William, Count of Boulognem.2 Hamelin Plantagenet

    Reginald de Warenne m. Adeline

    alph de Warenne (dsp)
    Gundrada de Warenne, (Gundred) m.1 Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick.

    William de Warenne, Earl of Warenne and Surrey

    Ada de Warenne(d. c.1178) m. Henry of Scotland, 3rd Earl of Huntingdon

    of Vermandois

    !of Valois, Bretagne, France.

    FamilySearch showed this additional information:
    Burial - Place: Priory of Lewes, Lewes, Sussex, England

    Marriage: Robert de Caen

    m. Robert de Caen (b. 1046)

    The later life of Elizabeth de Vermandois is not known.

    The original Vermandois arms were "checky or and sable" but there was no black tincture in early medieval heraldry until sable was discovered, being the crushed fur of this animal. A very deep indigo was used instead which faded into blue so the Vermandois arms became "checky or and azure".The Vermandois arms were inherited by the earls of Warenne and Surrey, the Newburgh earls of Warwick, the Beauchamp earls of Warwick and Worcester and the Clifford earls of Cumberland.

    Source: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Capet-250

    (Research):Isabel married Robert I DE BEAUMONT-LE-ROGER 1st Earl of Leicester, son of Roger DE BEAUMONT-LE-ROGER Seigneur de Portaudemer and Adeliza (Adeline) DE MEULAN, in Apr 1096 in Normandy, France. (Robert I DE BEAUMONT-LE-ROGER 1st Earl of Leicester was born about 1046 in Beaumont-le-Roger, Eure, Normandy, France, died on 5 Jun 1118 in Meulan, Yvelines, Ile-de-France, France and was buried after 5 Jun 1118 in Abbey of Preaux, Normandy, France.)

    Isabel also married William DE WARENNE 2nd Earl of Surrey & Warren, son of Guillaume (William) DE WARENNE 1st Earl of Surrey and Gundred DE NORMANDIE, about 1118 in France. (William DE WARENNE 2nd Earl of Surrey & Warren was born in 1081 in Lewes, Sussex, England, died on 11 May 1138 in Priory of Lewes, Sussex, England and was buried in Priory of Lewes, Sussex, England.)

    SURNAME: Also shown as De Vermandois

    GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Isabel Elizabeth

    PREFIX: Also shown as Comtesse De Leicester

    GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Isabel Elizabeth

    AFN: Merged with a record that used the AFN 8XJB-1D

    Elizabeth married De Beaumont-Le-Roger, 1st Earl of Leicester Robert I Apr 1096, Normandy, France. Robert (son of Count/Beaumont Roger and de Meullant, Cts./Meulent Adeline (Adeliza)) was born Abt 1046, Beaumont-le-Roger, Eure, Normandy, France; died 5 Jun 1118, Meulan, Yvelines, Ile-de-France, France; was buried Aft 5 Jun 1118, Abbey of Preaux, Normandy, France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 19. De Beaumont-Le-Roger, Comtesse de Montfort Adeline  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1092, Leicester, Leicestershire, England.
    2. 20. de Beaumont, Isabel (Elizabeth)  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1086/1096, of, Leicester, Leicestershire, England; died Abt 1147.
    3. 21. De Beaumont, Eleanor  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1100, Leicester Castle, Leicestershire, England.; died 1157, Cheshire England.
    4. 22. de Beaumont, Aubreye  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1100, of, Leicester, Leicestershire, England.
    5. 23. De Beaumont, Earl/Leicester Robert II  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1104, of, Leicester, Leicestershire, England; died 5 Apr 1168, , , , England; was buried , Leicester Abbey, Leicester, Leicestershire, England.
    6. 24. de Beaumont, Waleran  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1104, , , England; died 10 Apr 1166.
    7. 25. de Beaumont  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1104.
    8. 26. de Beaumont, Hugh  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1106, of, Leicester, Leicestershire, England.
    9. 27. de Beaumont, Elizabeth  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1106.
    10. 28. de Beaumont  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1110, of, Leicester, Leicestershire, England.
    11. 29. de Beaumont, Amicade  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1112, of, Leicester, Leicestershire, England.
    12. 30. de Beaumont, Maud  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1114, of, Leicester, Leicestershire, England.
    13. 31. de Beaumont, Mabel  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1114/1116, of, Leicester, Leicestershire, England.
    14. 32. de Beaumont, Adeline  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1124, of, Leicester, Leicestershire, England.

    Elizabeth married De Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey William II Abt 1118, France. William (son of De Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey Guillaume and De Normandie, Princess Of England Gundred) was born 1081, Lewes, Sussex, England; died 11 May 1138, Priory of Lewes, Sussex, England; was buried , Priory Of Lewes, Lewes, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 33. De Warren, Earl/Surrey William III  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1110, of, Vermandois, Normandy, France; died 1148, , Laodicea.
    2. 34. De Warenne, Lord of Wormgay Reginald  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1113, Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France; died 1179, Wormegay, Norfolk, Englan.
    3. 35. De Warren, Reginald  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1113, of, , Vermandois, Normandy.
    4. 36. de Warren, Ralph  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1115, of, , Vermandois, Normandy; died , Sp.
    5. 37. De Warenne, Gundred/ Adelaide (Ada)  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1117, Lewes, Sussex, England; died 1166/1178, Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England; was buried , Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland.
    6. 38. De Warren, Cts/Warwick Gundred  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1117/1119, of, Warwick, Warwickshire, England; died Abt 1166, , , Warwickshire, England.
    7. 39. De Warenne, Countess Of Huntingdon Ada  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1120, Lewes, Sussex, England; died 12 Jun 1178, Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England; was buried , Haddington Nunnery, Lincolnshire, England..

  9. 14.  Capet, Mahaut Descendancy chart to this point (5.Adélaïde3, 2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1083.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: FNMC-DC
    • _UID: 63FAC9D931124349A01448A3878377D0BEE8


  10. 15.  Capet Descendancy chart to this point (5.Adélaïde3, 2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1085, of, Valois, Bretagne, France.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8XJB-3Q
    • _UID: F15F03511570BC4C96D9CFF7A422CE655FFB


  11. 16.  Capet, William Descendancy chart to this point (5.Adélaïde3, 2.Adele2, 1.Raoul1) was born Abt 1087, of, Valois, France; died Abt 1096.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8XJB-4W
    • _FSFTID: 936K-9SK
    • _UID: 577199803F36264A84DEEDF735E3BF6D5044



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