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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  De Torta was born Abt 960, , , , France.

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    • _UID: E0CE8768FDF8124491A14408C7562E5B0CDC

    De Warenne, William. William (son of de St. Martin, Walter) was born Abt 950, , , Normandy, France. [Group Sheet]

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    1. 2. De Warren, Ralph  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 998, , , , France.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  De Warren, Ralph Descendancy chart to this point (1.1) was born Abt 998, , , , France.

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    • AFN: 8PTT-23
    • _UID: C3775A05ED35C647BAB964432391243AF43B

    Ralph — Emma. Emma was born Abt 1000/1020, , , , France. [Group Sheet]

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    1. 3. De Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey Guillaume  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1037, Varenne near Bellencombre, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died 24 Jun 1088, Lewes, Sussex, England, England; was buried , Priory Of Lewes, Lewes, Sussex, England.
    2. 4. De Warren, Ralph  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1053, , , , France.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  De Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey Guillaume Descendancy chart to this point (2.Ralph2, 1.1) was born Bef 1037, Varenne near Bellencombre, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died 24 Jun 1088, Lewes, Sussex, England, England; was buried , Priory Of Lewes, Lewes, Sussex, England.

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    • AFN: 9FK0-RW
    • _UID: 2C4C5BC1BD4140618B25F742B2507F832033
    • _UID: AB464BF5DEFA234AB11BB16DF2D9A5A67642
    • Birth: Abt 1055, of, Bellencombe, S-Inf, France

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    EARLDOM OF SURREY (I) 1088

    WILLIAM DE WARENNE was 1st son of Rodulf II by Emma. At some time in or after 1054 Duke William gave him the castle of Mortemer, which had been forfeited by his kinsman, Roger de Mortimer, after the Battle of Mortemer in February of that year. Probably at the same time he acquired lands at Bellencombre, the castle of which became the caput of the Warenne barony in Normandy. In 1066 he was one of the Norman barons summoned by the Duke to a Council on hearing that Harold had been crowned King after the death of the Confessor. He took part in the invasion of England and was present at the Battle of Hastings. He was rewarded with lands in 13 counties (j), including most of the rape of Lewes in Sussex, the manor of Conisborough, co. York, and Castle Acre and a number of holdings in Norfolk. In 1067 he was one of the Norman nobles whom the Conqueror left in England to support his vice-regents, William FitzOsbern and the Bishop of Bayeux. In 1075 he was one of the two chief justiciars who were in charge of England when the Earls of Hereford and Norfolk rebelled and who summoned them to the King's court, and on their refusal crushed the rebellion (b). About 1083-85 he was fighting for the King in Maine (c). In the spring of 1088 he supported William II against the rebels led by the Bishop of Bayeux and the Count of Mortain, and to secure his loyalty he was created, shortly after Easter (16 April) 1088, EARL OF SURREY (e), his immediate successors being styled more usually EARLS DE WARENNE. He was mortally wounded at the siege of Pevensey before the end of May. He founded Lewes priory as a cell of Cluny abbey, about 1078-82.

    He married, 1stly, Gundred, sister of Gerbod the Fleming, EARL OF CHESTER, possibly daughter of Gerbod, hereditary advocate of the Abbey of St. Bertin at St. Omer. She died in child-birth, 27 May 1085, at Castle Acre, Norfolk, and was buried the chapter-house at Lewes. He married, 2ndly, [----], sister of Richard GUET (living 1098). He died 24 June 1088, apparently from the effect of his wound at Pevensey, at Lewes, and was buried there beside his wife. [Complete Peerage XII/1:493-5, XIV:604 (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (j) Bedford, Bucks, Cambridge, Huntingdon, Lincoln, Oxford, York, Berks, Essex, Hants, Norfolk, Suffolk, and Sussex.

    (b) William was one of those who occupied Norwich castle after its surrender.

    (c) He was one of the leaders of an unsuccessful attack on the castle of Ste Suzanne in Jan, year uncertain.

    (e) The creation has been ascribed to the Conqueror, but certainly in error. This was the only earldom created before the reign of Stephen of which the holder did not take his title from the county in which lay his chief territorial strength. However, it is likely that with the Earldom he was given lands at Reigate in Surrey.

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    [From "The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families"]

    For this identification see Mr. Loyd's paper 'The Origin of the Family of Warenne' in Yorkshire Arch. Journal, vol. xxxi, pp. 97-113. The hamlet of Varenne lies on the river Varenne c. 2 miles S of Arques and c. 13 miles N of Bellencombre. The latter place, arr. Dieppe, cant. Bellencombre, where there was a castle, became the caput of the Warenne honour in Normandy.

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    William Warenne was one of those followers of William of Normandy who made their fortunes by the conquest of England. The younger son of Rudulf of Varenne in Normandy, he distinguished himself in ducal service as a very young man in the early 1050s. After the ducal victory at Mortemer (1054) he received estates in upper Normandy, but it was only after the English invasion that he attained the front rank. He fought at Hastings and was rewarded with lands which by 1086 extended into thirteen counties, most notably strategically important estates in Sussex centered round Lewes. By the end of William I's reign he was one of the dozen largest individual landowners in England. He repaid his debt with vigorous loyalty in both England and France. In 1075 he played a leading role in suppressing the revolt of the earls of Hereford and Norfolk. After the Conqueror's death, Warenne supported William Rufus in 1087-88 against Robert Curthose and Odo of Bayeux. Rufus encouraged his service by creating him earl of Surrey in 1088. The same year Warenne was seriously wounded by an arrow in his leg at the siege of Pevensey and died at his foundation of Lewes Priory on 24 June 1088.

    Warenne's career was more than meteoric. A younger son of an obscure minor Norman nobleman, he had risen through conspicuous loyalty to his lord to become not only one of the richest men in one of the richest kingdoms of Europe but also the founder of a dynasty which, powerful, wealthy and influential, survived as earl of Surrey until 1347. Warenne's foundation at Lewes (1078/80) was the first Cluniac house in England, another sign of the Conquest's effect on establishing institutional as well as personal links across the Channel. Warenne's success depended on the traditional chivalric virtues of loyalty, bravery and prowess in arms. His life illustrates the stupendous prizes and the personal dangers on offer to those who joined the conquest of England. It was appropriate that Warenne's direct descendent, John De Warenne, Earl of Surrey (1231-1304), when challenged in 1278 by royal commissioners to produce title to his land, produced an old rusty sword declaring, 'Here, my Lord, is my warrant (warrantus: a pun which no doubt appealed to the somewhat intractable sense of honour of the time). My ancestors came with William the Bastard and won their lands with the sword, and by the sword I will hold them against all comers.' Earl John won his case. William of Warenne would have approved. [Who's Who in Early Medieval England, Christopher Tyerman, Shepheard-Walwyn, Ltd., London, 1996]

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    William de Warrenne, Earl of Warrenne, in Normandy, a near kinsman of William the Conqueror, came into England with that prince and, having distinguished himself at the battle of Hastings, obtained an immense portion of the public spoliation. He had large grants of land in several counties, amongst which were the Barony of Lewes, in Sussex, and the manors of Carletune and Benington, in Lincolnshire. So extensive indeed were those grants that his possessions resembled more the dominions of a sovereign prince than the estates of a subject. He enjoyed, too, in the highest degree, the confidence of the king, and was appointed joint justice-general with Richard de Benefactis for administering justice throughout the whole realm. While in that office, some great disturbers of the public peace having refused to appear before him and his colleague in obedience to citation, the Earl took up arms and defeated the rebels in a battle at Fagadune, when he is said, for the purpose of striking terror, to have cut off the right foot of each of his prisoners. Of those rebels, Ralph Wahir or Guarder, Earl of Norfolk, and Roger, Earl of Hereford, were the ringleaders. His lordship was likewise highly esteemed by King William Rufus, and was created by that monarch Earl of Surrey. He m. Gundred, dau. of the Conqueror*, and had issue, William, Reginald, Gundred-Edith, and another dau. who m. Ernise de Colungis.

    This potent noble built the castle of Holt and founded the priory at Lewes, in Sussex. He resided principally at the castle of Lewes, and had besides Castle-Acre, in Norfolk, and noble castles at Coningsburg and Sandal. He d. 24 June, 1088, and Dugdale gives to following curious account of his parting hour. "It is reported that this Earl William did violently detain certain lands from the monks of Ely, for which, being often admonished by the abbot, and not making restitution, died miserably. And, though his death happened very far off the isle of Ely, the same night he died, the abbot lying quietly in his bed and meditating on heavenly things, heard the soul of this earl, in its carriage away by the devil, cry out loudly and with a known and distinct voice, Lord have mercy on me; Lord have mercy on me. And, moreover, that the next day after, the abbot acquainted all the monks in chapter therewith. And likewise, that about four days after, there came a messenger to them from the wife of this earl with 100 shillings for the good of his soul, who told them that he died the very hour that the abbot had heard the outcry. But that neither the abbot nor any of the monks would receive it, not thinking it safe for them to take the money of a damned person. If this part of the story as to the abbot's hearing the noise be no truer than the last, viz., that his lady sent them 100 shillings, I shall deem it to be a mere fiction, in regard the lady was certainly dead about three years before." The earl was s. by his elder son, William de Warenne. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 568, Warren, Earls of Surrey]

    * At one time, it was thought that Gundred was the daughter of William the Conqueror. This has since been disproved. For details, see "Early Yorkshire Charters" by C. T. Clay, or "Études sur Quelques Points de l'Historie de Guillaume le Conquérant" by H. Prentout. [Brian Tompsett, Directory of Royal Genealogical Data, University of Hull, Hull, UK, "Electronic," royal01389]

    (Research):1. Alternate Birth; 1055, Verennes, France.

    2. Alternate Death; 24 Jun 1088, Lewes, Surrey, England.

    Guillaume married Gundred DE NORMANDIE, daughter of Gherbod DE FLANDRES 1st Earl of Chester and Matilda DE FLANDRES Queen of England, before 1077 in Normandy, France (Gundred DE NORMANDIE was born in 1063 in Normandy, France , died on 27 May 1085 in Castle Acre, Acre, Norfolk, England and was buried in Priory, Lewes, Sussex, England

    Guillaume also married Sister of Richard GUET after 1085 in 2nd wife (Sister of Richard GUET was born about 1060 in Normandy, France and died after 1098

    This individual has the following other parents in the Ancestral File:
    Ralph /DE WARREN/ (AFN:FLGX-8C) and Mrs. E /DE WARENNE/ (AFN:FLGX-9J)
    William // (AFN:GS5K-8C) and Miss /FORTA/ (AFN:GS5K-9J)

    SURNAME: Also shown as De Warren

    GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as William

    PREFIX: Also shown as Earl/Surrey

    DEATH: Also shown as Died Pevensey, Sussex, England.

    BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Priory of Lewes, Sussex, England.

    Guillaume — Goet, Gouet. Gouet was born Abt 1057. [Group Sheet]

    Guillaume married De Normandie, Princess Of England Gundred Bef 1077, Normandy, France. Gundred (daughter of De Flandres, Gherbod 1st Earl of Chester and Baudouinides, Queen of England Matilda, daughter of De Normandie, King of England Guillaume I and Baudouinides, Queen of England Matilda) was born 1063, , Normandy, Normandy, France; died 27 May 1085, Castle Acre, Acre, Norfolk, England; was buried , Priory, Lewes, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 5. De Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey William II  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1081, Lewes, Sussex, England; died 11 May 1138, Priory of Lewes, Sussex, England; was buried , Priory Of Lewes, Lewes, Sussex, England.
    2. 6. De Warren, Reginald  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1082, of, , Sussex, England; died , Dsp.
    3. 7. De Warren, Edith  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1084, of, , Sussex, England.
    4. 8. De Warren, Gundred  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1085, Acre Castle, Acre, Sussex, England.

  2. 4.  De Warren, Ralph Descendancy chart to this point (2.Ralph2, 1.1) was born Abt 1053, , , , France.

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    • AFN: 8PTT-4F
    • _UID: 5B822B1E12E12F4E81AABBFFFEBC069CD724



Generation: 4

  1. 5.  De Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey William II Descendancy chart to this point (3.Guillaume3, 2.Ralph2, 1.1) was born 1081, Lewes, Sussex, England; died 11 May 1138, Priory of Lewes, Sussex, England; was buried , Priory Of Lewes, Lewes, Sussex, England.

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    • AFN: 8PTS-0L
    • _UID: 7BD75AC6412EFB4598A01E8916B9834597D3
    • _UID: 7C7C4139726948BC96423E8AFA107735A79D
    • _UID: 92C32F340AA247E0AF6DEDC4733CC4EFBAA3
    • _UID: B72E13AD5454D34E81B06C0B59110E46D40D

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    EARLDOM OF SURREY (II) 1088

    WILLIAM (DE WARENNE) II, EARL OF SURREY, 1st son and heir by 1st wife, usually styled EARL DE WARENNE. In 1090 he fought in Normandy against Robert de Bell?me (afterwards 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury), who was supported by Duke Robert. Shortly after 1093 he sought unsuccessfully to marry Maud, daughter of Malcolm III, King of Scotland. He was with Henry I at Windsor on 3 September 1101, but later in that autumn he went with Duke Robert to Normandy and supported him against the King, who confiscated his inheritance in England; however, in 1103 the Duke induced Henry to restore his English Earldom. In 1106 he commanded a division of the royal army at the battle of Tinchebrai. In 1109 he was at a Great Council at Nottingharn; and in 1110 he was a surety for the performance of the treaty with the Count of Flanders. In 1111 he was one of the nobles sitting in judgement in Normandy. He commanded a division of the royal army at the battle of Brémule in 1119 (l). In 1131 he attended the Council at Northampton. He was present at the death of Henry I on 1 December 1135 at Lyons-la-Foret; after which the councillors put him in charge of the district of Rouen and the pays de Caux. Later he went to England, and he was at Westminster with Stephen at Easter 1136. He was probably still living in June 1137. He was a benefactor, or confirmed previous benefactions, to the abbeys of St. Evroul and St. Amand (Rouen), and the priories of Lewes, Castle Acre, Wymondham, Longueville and Bellencombre. Henry I had proposed to marry William to one of his illegitimate daughters, but on Archbishop Anselm's objection this match was abandoned on the ground of affinity. William eventually married Isabel (or Elizabeth), widow of Robert (DE BEAUMONT), COUNT OF MEULAN and 1st EARL OF LEICESTER (died 5 June 1118) (c), daughter of Hugh DE CRÉPI (styled "the Great"), COUNT OF VERMANDOIS (younger son of HENRY I, KING OF FRANCE), by Adelaide, daughter and heir of Herbert, COUNT OF VERMANDOIS and VALOIS. He died probably 11 May 1138 and was buried at his father's feet in the chapter-house at Lewes. Isabel survived him and with the consent of her son the 3rd Earl gave the church of Dorking to Lewes priory (g). She died probably before July 1147 (h). [Complete Peerage XII/1:495-6, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    was a member of royalty, nobility or aristocracy in the British Isles.

    William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey (died 1138), was the son of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey and his first wife Gundred. He is more often referred to as Earl Warenne or Earl of Warenne than as Earl of Surrey.
    In January 1091, William assisted Hugh of Grantmesnil (d.1094) in his defense of Courcy against the forces of Robert de Belleme and Duke Robert.
    Sometime around 1093 he tried to marry Matilda (or Edith), daughter of king Malcolm III of Scotland. She instead married Henry I of England, and this may be the cause of William's great dislike of Henry I, which was to be his apparent motivator in the following years.
    He accompanied Robert Curthose (Duke Robert) in his 1101 invasion of England, and afterwards lost his English lands and titles and was exiled to Normandy. There he complained to Curthose that he expended great effort on the duke's behalf and had in return lost most of his possessions. Curthose's return to England in 1103 was apparently made to convince his brother to restore William's earldom. This was successful, though Curthose had to give up all he had received after the 1101 invasion, and subsequently William was loyal to Henry.
    To further insure William's loyalty Henry considered marrying him to one of his many illegitimate daughters. He was however dissuaded by Archbishop Anselm of Canterbury, for any of the daughters would have been within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity. The precise nature of the consanguinous relationship Anselm had in mind has been much debated, but it is most likely he was referring to common descent from the father of duchess Gunnor.
    William was one of the commanders on Henry's side (against Robert Curthose) at the Battle of Tinchebray in 1106. Afterwards, with his loyalty thus proven, he became more prominent in Henry's court.
    In 1110, Curthose's son William Clito escaped along with Helias of Saint-Saens, and afterwards Warenne received the forfeited Saint-Saens lands, which were very near his own in upper Normandy. By this maneuver king Henry further assured his loyalty, for the successful return of Clito would mean at the very least Warenne's loss of this new territory.
    He fought at the Battle of Bremule in 1119, and was at Henry's deathbed in 1135.
    William's death is recorded as 11-May-1138 in the register of Lewes priory and he was buried with his father at the chapter-house there.
    Family
    In 1118 William acquired the royal-blooded bride he desired when married Elizabeth de Vermandois. She was a daughter of count Hugh of Vermandois, a son of Henry I of France, and was the widow of Robert de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Leicester.
    By Elizabeth he had three sons and two daughters:
    William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey;
    Reginald de Warenne, who inherited his father's property in upper Normandy, including the castles of Bellencombre and Mortemer. He married Adeline, daughter of William, lord of Wormgay in Norfolk, by whom he had a son William (founder of the priory of Wormegay), whose daughter and sole heir Beatrice married first Dodo, lord Bardolf, and secondly Hubert de Burgh; Reginald was one of the persecutors of Archbishop Thomas in 1170.
    Ralph de Warenne
    Gundrada de Warenne, who married first Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick, and second William, lord of Kendal, and is most remembered for expelling king Stephen's garrison from Warwick Castle;
    Ada de Warenne, who married Henry of Scotland, 3rd Earl of Huntingdon who made many grants to the priory of Lewes.

    William de Warenne II - also known as: Warren - was born about 1065, lived in Sussex, England and died on 11 May 1138 in England . He was the son of William de Warenne I and Princess Gundred of England.
    William married Isabel de Vermandois before 1118 in France. Isabel was born about 1085, lived in Valois, France. She was the daughter of Hughes of France and Adelle de Vermandois. She died on 13 Feb 1131 in England .


    William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey (died 1138), was the son of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey and his first wife Gundred. He is more often referred to as Earl Warenne or Earl of Warenne than as Earl of Surrey.
    In January 1091, William assisted Hugh of Grantmesnil (d.1094) in his defense of Courcy against the forces of Robert de Belleme and Duke Robert [1].
    Sometime around 1093 he tried to marry Matilda (or Edith), daughter of king Malcolm III of Scotland. She instead married Henry I of England, and this may be the cause of William's great dislike of Henry I, which was to be his apparent motivator in the following years.
    He accompanied Robert Curthose (Duke Robert) in his 1101 invasion of England, and afterwards lost his English lands and titles and was exiled to Normandy[2]. There he complained to Curthose that he expended great effort on the duke's behalf and had in return lost most of his possessions. Curthose's return to England in 1103 was apparently made to convince his brother to restore William's earldom. This was successful, though Curthose had to give up all he had received after the 1101 invasion, and subsequently William was loyal to Henry.
    To further insure William's loyalty Henry considered marrying him to one of his many illegitimate daughters. He was however dissuaded by Archbishop Anselm of Canterbury, for any of the daughters would have been within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity. The precise nature of the consanguinous relationship Anselm had in mind has been much debated, but it is most likely he was referring to common descent from the father of duchess Gunnor.
    William was one of the commanders on Henry's side (against Robert Curthose) at the Battle of Tinchebray in 1106. Afterwards, with his loyalty thus proven, he became more prominent in Henry's court.
    In 1110, Curthose's son William Clito escaped along with Helias of Saint-Saens, and afterwards Warenne received the forfeited Saint-Saens lands, which were very near his own in upper Normandy. By this maneuver king Henry further assured his loyalty, for the successful return of Clito would mean at the very least Warenne's loss of this new territory.
    He fought at the Battle of Bremule in 1119 [3], and was at Henry's deathbed in 1135.
    William's death is recorded as 11-May-1138 in the register of Lewes priory and he was buried with his father at the chapter-house there.
    Family
    In 1118 William acquired the royal-blooded bride he desired when married Elizabeth de Vermandois. She was a daughter of count Hugh of Vermandois, a son of Henry I of France, and was the widow of Robert de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Leicester.
    By Elizabeth he had three sons and two daughters:
    William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey;
    Reginald de Warenne, who inherited his father's property in upper Normandy, including the castles of Bellencombre and Mortemer He married Adeline, aughter of William, lord of Wormgay in Norfolk, by whom he had a son William (founder of the priory of Wormegay), whose daughter and sole heir Beatrice married first Dodo, lord Bardolf, and secondly Hubert de Burgh; Reginald was one of the persecutors of Archbishop Thomas in 1170.
    Ralph de Warenne
    Gundrada de Warenne, who married first Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick, and second William, lord of Kendal, and is most remembered for expelling king Stephen's garrison from Warwick Castle;
    Ada de Warenne, who married Henry of Scotland, 3rd Earl of Huntingdon who made many grants to the priory of Lewes.


    EARLDOM OF SURREY (II)

    WILLIAM (DE WARENNE) II, EARL OF SURREY, 1st son and heir by 1st wife, usually styled EARL DE WARENNE. In 1090 he fought in Normandy against Robert de Belléme (afterwards 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury), who was supported by Duke Robert. Shortly after 1093 he sought unsuccessfully to marry Maud, daughter of Malcolm III, King of Scotland. He was with Henry I at Windsor on 3 September 1101, but later in that autumn he went with Duke Robert to Normandy and supported him against the King, who confiscated his inheritance in England; however, in 1103 the Duke induced Henry to restore his English Earldom. In 1106 he commanded a division of the royal army at the battle of Tinchebrai. In 1109 he was at a Great Council at Nottingharn; and in 1110 he was a surety for the performance of the treaty with the Count of Flanders. In 1111 he was one of the nobles sitting in judgement in Normandy. He commanded a division of the royal army at the battle of Brémule in 1119 (l). In 1131 he attended the Council at Northampton. He was present at the death of Henry I on 1 December 1135 at Lyons-la-Foret; after which the councillors put him in charge of the district of Rouen and the pays de Caux. Later he went to England, and he was at Westminster with Stephen at Easter 1136. He was probably still living in June 1137. He was a benefactor, or confirmed previous benefactions, to the abbeys of St. Evroul and St. Amand (Rouen), and the priories of Lewes, Castle Acre, Wymondham, Longueville and Bellencombre. Henry I had proposed to marry William to one of his illegitimate daughters, but on Archbishop Anselm's objection this match was abandoned on the ground of affinity. William eventually married Isabel (or Elizabeth), widow of Robert (DE BEAUMONT), COUNT OF MEULAN and 1st EARL OF LEICESTER (died 5 June 1118) (c), daughter of Hugh DE CRÉPI (styled "the Great"), COUNT OF VERMANDOIS (younger son of HENRY I, KING OF FRANCE), by Adelaide, daughter and heir of Herbert, COUNT OF VERMANDOIS and VALOIS. He died probably 11 May 1138 and was buried at his father's feet in the chapter-house at Lewes. Isabel survived him and with the consent of her son the 3rd Earl gave the church of Dorking to Lewes priory (g). She died probably before July 1147 (h)

    According to Ancestral Roots, Isabel preceeded William in death in 13 Feb 1130/31--not July 1147.

    (l) He had encouraged Henry to fight when William (de Tancarville) the Chamberlain urged him to retreat. His alleged speech to the King before the battle is given in "Chron. Men de Hida", pp. 316-7.
    (c) According to Henry of Huntingdon [their daughter Ada's husband], the death of Isabel's 1st husband was hastened by an (unnamed) Earl carrying her off, by force or fraud. The truth of this is open to question.
    (g) He left 3 sons: William - 3rd Earl, Ralph, and Rainald, ancestor of the Warennes of Wormegay; and 2 daughters: (1) Gundred, who m. 1st Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick; 2ndly, (as his 2nd wife), William de Lancaster; (2) Ada, who m. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon, s. of David I, King of Scotland, by whom she was mother of Malcolm IV and William the Lion, Kings of Scotland.
    (h) Before her son William, 3rd Earl, went on crusade in June 1147.

    This nobleman, William de Warrenne (Earl of Warrenne), 2nd Earl of Surrey, joined Robert de Belesmé, Earl of Arundel and Shrewsbury, in favour of Robert Curthose against Henry I, and in consequence forfeited his English earldom and estates, but those were subsequently restored to him and he was ever afterwards a good and faithful subject to King Henry. His lordship m. Isabel, dau. of Hugh the Great, Earl of Vermandois, and widow of Robert, Earl of Mellent, by whom he had issue, William, Reginald, Ralph, Gundred, and Adeline. The earl d. 11 May, 1138, and was s. by his eldest son, William de Warrenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey.

    William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey (died 1138), was the son of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey and his first wife Gundred. He is more often referred to as Earl Warenne or Earl of Warenne than as Earl of Surrey.
    In January 1091, William assisted Hugh of Grantmesnil (d. 1094) in his defense of Courcy against the forces of Robert de Belleme and Duke Robert.
    Sometime around 1093 he tried to marry Matilda (or Edith), daughter of king Malcolm III of Scotland. She instead married Henry I of England, and this may be the cause of William's great dislike of Henry I, which was to be his apparent motivator in the following years.
    He accompanied Robert Curthose (Duke Robert) in his 1101 invasion of England, and afterwards lost his English lands and titles and was exiled to Normandy. There he complained to Curthose that he expended great effort on the duke's behalf and had in return lost most of his possessions. Curthose's return to England in 1103 was apparently made to convince his brother to restore William's earldom. This was successful, though Curthose had to give up all he had received after the 1101 invasion, and subsequently William was loyal to Henry.
    To further insure William's loyalty Henry considered marrying him to one of his many illegitimate daughters. He was however dissuaded by Archbishop Anselm of Canterbury, for any of the daughters would have been within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity. The precise nature of the consanguineous relationship Anselm had in mind has been much debated, but it is most likely he was referring to common descent from the father of duchess Gunnor.
    William was one of the commanders on Henry's side (against Robert Curthose) at the Battle of Tinchebray in 1106. Afterwards, with his loyalty thus proven, he became more prominent in Henry's court.
    In 1110, Curthose's son William Clito escaped along with Helias of Saint-Saens, and afterwards Warenne received the forfeited Saint-Saens lands, which were very near his own in upper Normandy. By this maneuver king Henry further assured his loyalty, for the successful return of Clito would mean at the very least Warenne's loss of this new territory.
    He fought at the Battle of Bremule in 1119, and was at Henry's deathbed in 1135.
    William's death is recorded as 11-May-1138 in the register of Lewes priory and he was buried with his father at the chapter-house there.
    Elizabeth of Vermandois, Countess of Meulan apparently tired of her aging husband at some point during the marriage. The historian Planche says (1874) that the Countess was seduced by or fell in love with a younger nobleman, William de Warenne (b. ca. 1071 - d. 11 May 1138) himself the thwarted suitor of Edith of Scotland, Queen consort of Henry I of England. Warenne was said to want a royal bride, and Elizabeth fitted his requirements, even though she was also another man's wife.
    In 1115, the Countess was apparently carried off or abducted by Warenne, which abduction apparently concealed a long-standing affair. There was some kind of separation or divorce between Meulan and his wife, which however did not permit her to marry her lover. The elderly Count of Meulan died, supposedly of chagrin and mortification in being thus publicly humiliated, in the Abbey of Preaux, Normandy on 5 June 1118, leaving his properties to his two elder sons whom he had carefully educated.
    In 1118 William acquired the royal-blooded bride he desired when married Elizabeth de Vermandois. She was a daughter of count Hugh of Vermandois, a son of Henry I of France, and was the widow of Robert de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Leicester.
    William and Elizabeth had three sons and two daughters:
    ? William de Warenne;
    ? Reginald de Warenne;
    ? Ralph de Warenne;
    ? Gundrada (Gundred) de Warenne;
    ? Ada de Warenne.
    Note: William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey

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    Note: According to Ancestral Roots, Isabel preceeded William in death in 13 Feb 1130/31--not July 1147.

    (l) He had encouraged Henry to fight when William (de Tancarville) the Chamberlain urged him to retreat. His alleged speech to the King before the battle is given in "Chron. Men de Hida", pp. 316-7.

    (c) According to Henry of Huntingdon [their daughter Ada's husband], the death of Isabel's 1st husband was hastened by an (unnamed) Earl carrying her off, by force or fraud. The truth of this is open to question.

    (g) He left 3 sons: William - 3rd Earl, Ralph, and Rainald, ancestor of the Warennes of Wormegay; and 2 daughters: (1) Gundred, who m. 1st Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick; 2ndly, (as his 2nd wife), William de Lancaster; (2) Ada, who m. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon, s. of David I, King of Scotland, by whom she was mother of Malcolm IV and William the Lion, Kings of Scotland.

    (h) Before her son William, 3rd Earl, went on crusade in June 1147.

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    This nobleman, William de Warrenne (Earl of Warrenne), 2nd Earl of Surrey, joined Robert de Belesmé, Earl of Arundel and Shrewsbury, in favour of Robert Curthose against Henry I, and in consequence forfeited his English earldom and estates, but those were subsequently restored to him and he was ever afterwards a good and faithful subject to King Henry. His lordship m. Isabel, dau. of Hugh the Great, Earl of Vermandois, and widow of Robert, Earl of Mellent, by whom he had issue, William, Reginald, Ralph, Gundred, and Adeline. The earl d. 11 May, 1138, and was s. by his eldest son, William de Warrenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 569, Warren, Earls of Surrey]

    Source:
    Jim Weber , WorldConnect at Rootsweb:
    http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jweber&id=I12010&style=TABLE.

    im Weber , WorldConnect at Rootsweb:
    http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jweber&id=I11952

    Jim Weber , WorldConnect at Rootsweb:
    http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jweber&id=I26146

    (Research):Other names for William were William II DE WARREN and William DE WARRENNE.

    Source: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Warenne-25

    (Research):William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey, was the son of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey and his first wife Gundred. He is more often referred to as Earl Warenne or Earl of Warenne than as Earl of Surrey.
    In January 1091, William assisted Hugh of Grantmesnil (d.1094) in his defense of Courcy against the forces of Robert de Belleme and Duke Robert. Sometime around 1093 he tried to marry Matilda (or Edith), daughter of King Malcolm III of Scotland. She instead married Henry I of England, and this may be the cause of William's great dislike of Henry I, which was to be his apparent motivator in the following years.

    He accompanied Robert Curthose (Duke Robert) in his 1101 invasion of England, and afterwards lost his English lands and titles and was exiled to Normandy. There he complained to Curthose that he expended great effort on the Duke's behalf and had in return lost most of his possessions. Curthose's return to England in 1103 was apparently made to convince his brother to restore William's earldom. This was successful, though Curthose had to give up all he had received after the 1101 invasion, and subsequently William was loyal to Henry. To further insure William's loyalty Henry considered marrying him to one of his many illegitimate daughters. He was however dissuaded by Archbishop Anselm of Canterbury, for any of the daughters would have been within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity. The precise nature of the consanguineous relationship Anselm had in mind has been much debated, but it is most likely he was referring to common descent from the father of duchess Gunnor.

    William was one of the commanders on Henry's side (against Robert Curthose) at the Battle of Tinchebray in 1106. Afterwards, with his loyalty thus proven, he became more prominent in Henry's court. In 1110, Curthose's son William Clito escaped along with Helias of Saint-Saens, and afterwards Warenne received the forfeited Saint-Saens lands, which were very near his own in upper Normandy. By this maneuver king Henry further assured his loyalty, for the successful return of Clito would mean at the very least Warenne's loss of this new territory. He fought at the Battle of Bremule in 1119, and was at Henry's deathbed in 1135. William's death is recorded as May 11,1138 in the register of Lewes priory and he was buried with his father at the chapter-house there.

    Marriage date of 1101 is given on page 7 of "Sussex archaeological collections relating to the history and antiquities of the county", Volume XXXV, http://books.google.com/books?id=j64xAQAAIAAJ

    Source: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Warenne-25

    SUFFIX: Also shown as Earl of Surrey

    BIRTH: Also shown as Born Abt 1071

    DEATH: Also shown as Died Lewes, Sussex, England.

    PREFIX: Also shown as Earl

    SURNAME: Also shown as De Warren

    PREFIX: Also shown as Earl/Surrey

    William married Capet, Countess of Leicester, de Vermandois Elizabeth Abt 1118, France. Elizabeth (daughter of Capet, Duc de Vermandois et de Bourgogne Hugh and Capet, Comtesse de VERMANDOIS Adélaïde) was born 13 Feb 1080, Valois now Oise, Picardy, France; died 17 Feb 1146, St. Nicaise, Meulan, Desens, France; was buried 17 Feb 1131, Lewes, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 9. De Warren, Earl/Surrey William III  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1110, of, Vermandois, Normandy, France; died 1148, , Laodicea.
    2. 10. De Warenne, Lord of Wormgay Reginald  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1113, Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France; died 1179, Wormegay, Norfolk, Englan.
    3. 11. De Warren, Reginald  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1113, of, , Vermandois, Normandy.
    4. 12. de Warren, Ralph  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1115, of, , Vermandois, Normandy; died , Sp.
    5. 13. De Warenne, Gundred/ Adelaide (Ada)  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1117, Lewes, Sussex, England; died 1166/1178, Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England; was buried , Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland.
    6. 14. De Warren, Cts/Warwick Gundred  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1117/1119, of, Warwick, Warwickshire, England; died Abt 1166, , , Warwickshire, England.
    7. 15. De Warenne, Countess Of Huntingdon Ada  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1120, Lewes, Sussex, England; died 12 Jun 1178, Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England; was buried , Haddington Nunnery, Lincolnshire, England..

  2. 6.  De Warren, Reginald Descendancy chart to this point (3.Guillaume3, 2.Ralph2, 1.1) was born Abt 1082, of, , Sussex, England; died , Dsp.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8PTS-FT
    • _UID: 26E3B92CCB7A2F4C9BC56830934F58321201


  3. 7.  De Warren, Edith Descendancy chart to this point (3.Guillaume3, 2.Ralph2, 1.1) was born Abt 1084, of, , Sussex, England.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8PTS-H6
    • _UID: 9D55022F9487A44E9C8B8C5A8E4473DA5CA8

    Notes:

    Md. 2) Drew de MONCEUX.

    Edith — de Gurney, Gerald. Gerald was born Abt 1082. [Group Sheet]

    Edith — De Monceux, Drew. Drew was born Abt 1082. [Group Sheet]


  4. 8.  De Warren, Gundred Descendancy chart to this point (3.Guillaume3, 2.Ralph2, 1.1) was born Abt 1085, Acre Castle, Acre, Sussex, England.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 9FK0-XR
    • _UID: B4643C1BE744D84B9D228F633DA6A54F4534

    Notes:

    or is the Castle in Norfolk?

    Gundred — de Colunches, Ernest. Ernest was born Abt 1083. [Group Sheet]



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