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Gundred (daughter of Gherbod the Fleming), d. 27 May 1085; m. bef. 1077, William de Warenne, d. Lewes 24 June 1088, created 1st Earl of Surrey, son of Rudolf de Warenne and Beatrice. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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He married, 1stly, Gundred, sister of Gerbod the Fleming, EARL OF CHESTER, possibly daughter of Gerbod, hereditary advocate of the Abbey of St. Bertin at St. Omer. She died in child-birth, 27 May 1085, at Castle Acre, Norfolk, and was buried the chapter-house at Lewes. [Complete Peerage XII/1:493-5, XIV:604 (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Trafford Pedigree; Some Early English Pedigrees, British 942 D2no, page 20.

Note: I think that Gundred was daughter of Gerbod the Fleming, Earl of Chester. He was also advocate of the Abbey of St. Bertin of St. Omer (as CP itself indicated-see notes under Gherbod) . As far as I know there is only one Gerbod.

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According to Magna Charta Sureties (and CP in a way), a daughter of Gherbod the Fleming. According to the Plantagenet Ancestry, a daughter of William the Conquerer and Matilda of Flanders. The following discussion in soc.genealogy.medieval illustrates the proof for Gundred being daughter of Matilda, wife of William I, and also the controversy still being debated about her ancestry. I happen to believe that the Lewes Chartulary is not false on the basis that there is no reason for forging a relationship to Queen Maud, but not King William I.

From: Phil Moody (moodyprime AT cox.net)
Subject: Re: tombstone of Gundrad, wife of William de Warenne
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-12-30 21:52:15 PST

"Chris PHILLIPS" wrote"


> There was never any question of Gundred being an illegitimate daughter of
> William I, but rather it was a case of a fraudulent claim that she was a
> legitimate daughter. The reason people used to think that Gundred was a
> daughter of William the Conqueror was because the monks of Lewes forged some
> charters which stated that. But I don't think anyone now seriously maintains
> that these charters are authentic.
>
> Gundred is known to have been a sister of Gerbod, who was briefly earl of
> Chester under William the Conqueror. It's clear they were members of a
> Flemish family who were advocates of St Bertin's Abbey in St Omer, and who
> held Oosterzele and Scheldewindeke, although the genealogy isn't altogether
> clear.

PLM: There is some doubt in my mind, however. Per your earlier assistance to me; I do now have "The Chartulary of the Priory of St. Pancras of Lewes", vol. I, ed. L. F. Salzman, and published by the Sussex Record Society in 1032 [sic?]. There is a lengthy charter by William Warrene nearly six pages in length; so I will not quote it's entirety, but this bit is curious.

Page 3:

"..., I have given for the welfare of my soul and that of Gundrada my wife and for the soul of my lord King William who brought me into England and by whose license I caused the monks to come and who confirmed my former gift, and for the welfare of my lady Queen Maud the mother of my wife and for the welfare of my lord King William his son after whose coming to England I made this charter and who made me Earl of Surrey,..." UNQ

PLM: It is quite clear from this charter, that Gundrada is the daughter of Queen Maud, and the lack of a reference to William I being the father of Gundrada is highly significant. If I were to rely solely on this evidence, I would have to conclude that Gundrada was NOT the daughter of William I at all.

People have referred to forged charters from Lewes, but what is the basis of these assertions, and which references discuss these "supposedly proven forgeries"? The premise of such an accusation appears to be up side down, in relation to the above charter. It seems illogical to forge a document that makes Gundrada the daughter of the Queen, as opposed to the King of England; which would essentially diminish her social standing, instead of elevating it, as most forgeries tend to do?

Sources: Jim Weber , WorldConnect at Rootsweb:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jweber&id=I07256&style=TABLE, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I00350

(Research): Another name for Gundred was Gundreda DE GAND.

Alt. Birth; 1058, Normandy, France.

DEATH: Also shown as Died Castle Acre, Norfolk, England, England.

BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Priory Of Lewes, Sussex, , England.

Gundred married De Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey Guillaume Bef 1077, Normandy, France. Guillaume (son of De Warren, Ralph and Emma) was born Bef 1037, Varenne near Bellencombre, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died 24 Jun 1088, Lewes, Sussex, England, England; was buried , Priory Of Lewes, Lewes, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet]

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EARLDOM OF SURREY (II) 1088

WILLIAM (DE WARENNE) II, EARL OF SURREY, 1st son and heir by 1st wife, usually styled EARL DE WARENNE. In 1090 he fought in Normandy against Robert de Bell?me (afterwards 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury), who was supported by Duke Robert. Shortly after 1093 he sought unsuccessfully to marry Maud, daughter of Malcolm III, King of Scotland. He was with Henry I at Windsor on 3 September 1101, but later in that autumn he went with Duke Robert to Normandy and supported him against the King, who confiscated his inheritance in England; however, in 1103 the Duke induced Henry to restore his English Earldom. In 1106 he commanded a division of the royal army at the battle of Tinchebrai. In 1109 he was at a Great Council at Nottingharn; and in 1110 he was a surety for the performance of the treaty with the Count of Flanders. In 1111 he was one of the nobles sitting in judgement in Normandy. He commanded a division of the royal army at the battle of Brémule in 1119 (l). In 1131 he attended the Council at Northampton. He was present at the death of Henry I on 1 December 1135 at Lyons-la-Foret; after which the councillors put him in charge of the district of Rouen and the pays de Caux. Later he went to England, and he was at Westminster with Stephen at Easter 1136. He was probably still living in June 1137. He was a benefactor, or confirmed previous benefactions, to the abbeys of St. Evroul and St. Amand (Rouen), and the priories of Lewes, Castle Acre, Wymondham, Longueville and Bellencombre. Henry I had proposed to marry William to one of his illegitimate daughters, but on Archbishop Anselm's objection this match was abandoned on the ground of affinity. William eventually married Isabel (or Elizabeth), widow of Robert (DE BEAUMONT), COUNT OF MEULAN and 1st EARL OF LEICESTER (died 5 June 1118) (c), daughter of Hugh DE CRÉPI (styled "the Great"), COUNT OF VERMANDOIS (younger son of HENRY I, KING OF FRANCE), by Adelaide, daughter and heir of Herbert, COUNT OF VERMANDOIS and VALOIS. He died probably 11 May 1138 and was buried at his father's feet in the chapter-house at Lewes. Isabel survived him and with the consent of her son the 3rd Earl gave the church of Dorking to Lewes priory (g). She died probably before July 1147 (h). [Complete Peerage XII/1:495-6, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

was a member of royalty, nobility or aristocracy in the British Isles.

William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey (died 1138), was the son of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey and his first wife Gundred. He is more often referred to as Earl Warenne or Earl of Warenne than as Earl of Surrey.
In January 1091, William assisted Hugh of Grantmesnil (d.1094) in his defense of Courcy against the forces of Robert de Belleme and Duke Robert.
Sometime around 1093 he tried to marry Matilda (or Edith), daughter of king Malcolm III of Scotland. She instead married Henry I of England, and this may be the cause of William's great dislike of Henry I, which was to be his apparent motivator in the following years.
He accompanied Robert Curthose (Duke Robert) in his 1101 invasion of England, and afterwards lost his English lands and titles and was exiled to Normandy. There he complained to Curthose that he expended great effort on the duke's behalf and had in return lost most of his possessions. Curthose's return to England in 1103 was apparently made to convince his brother to restore William's earldom. This was successful, though Curthose had to give up all he had received after the 1101 invasion, and subsequently William was loyal to Henry.
To further insure William's loyalty Henry considered marrying him to one of his many illegitimate daughters. He was however dissuaded by Archbishop Anselm of Canterbury, for any of the daughters would have been within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity. The precise nature of the consanguinous relationship Anselm had in mind has been much debated, but it is most likely he was referring to common descent from the father of duchess Gunnor.
William was one of the commanders on Henry's side (against Robert Curthose) at the Battle of Tinchebray in 1106. Afterwards, with his loyalty thus proven, he became more prominent in Henry's court.
In 1110, Curthose's son William Clito escaped along with Helias of Saint-Saens, and afterwards Warenne received the forfeited Saint-Saens lands, which were very near his own in upper Normandy. By this maneuver king Henry further assured his loyalty, for the successful return of Clito would mean at the very least Warenne's loss of this new territory.
He fought at the Battle of Bremule in 1119, and was at Henry's deathbed in 1135.
William's death is recorded as 11-May-1138 in the register of Lewes priory and he was buried with his father at the chapter-house there.
Family
In 1118 William acquired the royal-blooded bride he desired when married Elizabeth de Vermandois. She was a daughter of count Hugh of Vermandois, a son of Henry I of France, and was the widow of Robert de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Leicester.
By Elizabeth he had three sons and two daughters:
William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey;
Reginald de Warenne, who inherited his father's property in upper Normandy, including the castles of Bellencombre and Mortemer. He married Adeline, daughter of William, lord of Wormgay in Norfolk, by whom he had a son William (founder of the priory of Wormegay), whose daughter and sole heir Beatrice married first Dodo, lord Bardolf, and secondly Hubert de Burgh; Reginald was one of the persecutors of Archbishop Thomas in 1170.
Ralph de Warenne
Gundrada de Warenne, who married first Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick, and second William, lord of Kendal, and is most remembered for expelling king Stephen's garrison from Warwick Castle;
Ada de Warenne, who married Henry of Scotland, 3rd Earl of Huntingdon who made many grants to the priory of Lewes.

William de Warenne II - also known as: Warren - was born about 1065, lived in Sussex, England and died on 11 May 1138 in England . He was the son of William de Warenne I and Princess Gundred of England.
William married Isabel de Vermandois before 1118 in France. Isabel was born about 1085, lived in Valois, France. She was the daughter of Hughes of France and Adelle de Vermandois. She died on 13 Feb 1131 in England .


William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey (died 1138), was the son of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey and his first wife Gundred. He is more often referred to as Earl Warenne or Earl of Warenne than as Earl of Surrey.
In January 1091, William assisted Hugh of Grantmesnil (d.1094) in his defense of Courcy against the forces of Robert de Belleme and Duke Robert [1].
Sometime around 1093 he tried to marry Matilda (or Edith), daughter of king Malcolm III of Scotland. She instead married Henry I of England, and this may be the cause of William's great dislike of Henry I, which was to be his apparent motivator in the following years.
He accompanied Robert Curthose (Duke Robert) in his 1101 invasion of England, and afterwards lost his English lands and titles and was exiled to Normandy[2]. There he complained to Curthose that he expended great effort on the duke's behalf and had in return lost most of his possessions. Curthose's return to England in 1103 was apparently made to convince his brother to restore William's earldom. This was successful, though Curthose had to give up all he had received after the 1101 invasion, and subsequently William was loyal to Henry.
To further insure William's loyalty Henry considered marrying him to one of his many illegitimate daughters. He was however dissuaded by Archbishop Anselm of Canterbury, for any of the daughters would have been within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity. The precise nature of the consanguinous relationship Anselm had in mind has been much debated, but it is most likely he was referring to common descent from the father of duchess Gunnor.
William was one of the commanders on Henry's side (against Robert Curthose) at the Battle of Tinchebray in 1106. Afterwards, with his loyalty thus proven, he became more prominent in Henry's court.
In 1110, Curthose's son William Clito escaped along with Helias of Saint-Saens, and afterwards Warenne received the forfeited Saint-Saens lands, which were very near his own in upper Normandy. By this maneuver king Henry further assured his loyalty, for the successful return of Clito would mean at the very least Warenne's loss of this new territory.
He fought at the Battle of Bremule in 1119 [3], and was at Henry's deathbed in 1135.
William's death is recorded as 11-May-1138 in the register of Lewes priory and he was buried with his father at the chapter-house there.
Family
In 1118 William acquired the royal-blooded bride he desired when married Elizabeth de Vermandois. She was a daughter of count Hugh of Vermandois, a son of Henry I of France, and was the widow of Robert de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Leicester.
By Elizabeth he had three sons and two daughters:
William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey;
Reginald de Warenne, who inherited his father's property in upper Normandy, including the castles of Bellencombre and Mortemer He married Adeline, aughter of William, lord of Wormgay in Norfolk, by whom he had a son William (founder of the priory of Wormegay), whose daughter and sole heir Beatrice married first Dodo, lord Bardolf, and secondly Hubert de Burgh; Reginald was one of the persecutors of Archbishop Thomas in 1170.
Ralph de Warenne
Gundrada de Warenne, who married first Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick, and second William, lord of Kendal, and is most remembered for expelling king Stephen's garrison from Warwick Castle;
Ada de Warenne, who married Henry of Scotland, 3rd Earl of Huntingdon who made many grants to the priory of Lewes.


EARLDOM OF SURREY (II)

WILLIAM (DE WARENNE) II, EARL OF SURREY, 1st son and heir by 1st wife, usually styled EARL DE WARENNE. In 1090 he fought in Normandy against Robert de Belléme (afterwards 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury), who was supported by Duke Robert. Shortly after 1093 he sought unsuccessfully to marry Maud, daughter of Malcolm III, King of Scotland. He was with Henry I at Windsor on 3 September 1101, but later in that autumn he went with Duke Robert to Normandy and supported him against the King, who confiscated his inheritance in England; however, in 1103 the Duke induced Henry to restore his English Earldom. In 1106 he commanded a division of the royal army at the battle of Tinchebrai. In 1109 he was at a Great Council at Nottingharn; and in 1110 he was a surety for the performance of the treaty with the Count of Flanders. In 1111 he was one of the nobles sitting in judgement in Normandy. He commanded a division of the royal army at the battle of Brémule in 1119 (l). In 1131 he attended the Council at Northampton. He was present at the death of Henry I on 1 December 1135 at Lyons-la-Foret; after which the councillors put him in charge of the district of Rouen and the pays de Caux. Later he went to England, and he was at Westminster with Stephen at Easter 1136. He was probably still living in June 1137. He was a benefactor, or confirmed previous benefactions, to the abbeys of St. Evroul and St. Amand (Rouen), and the priories of Lewes, Castle Acre, Wymondham, Longueville and Bellencombre. Henry I had proposed to marry William to one of his illegitimate daughters, but on Archbishop Anselm's objection this match was abandoned on the ground of affinity. William eventually married Isabel (or Elizabeth), widow of Robert (DE BEAUMONT), COUNT OF MEULAN and 1st EARL OF LEICESTER (died 5 June 1118) (c), daughter of Hugh DE CRÉPI (styled "the Great"), COUNT OF VERMANDOIS (younger son of HENRY I, KING OF FRANCE), by Adelaide, daughter and heir of Herbert, COUNT OF VERMANDOIS and VALOIS. He died probably 11 May 1138 and was buried at his father's feet in the chapter-house at Lewes. Isabel survived him and with the consent of her son the 3rd Earl gave the church of Dorking to Lewes priory (g). She died probably before July 1147 (h)

According to Ancestral Roots, Isabel preceeded William in death in 13 Feb 1130/31--not July 1147.

(l) He had encouraged Henry to fight when William (de Tancarville) the Chamberlain urged him to retreat. His alleged speech to the King before the battle is given in "Chron. Men de Hida", pp. 316-7.
(c) According to Henry of Huntingdon [their daughter Ada's husband], the death of Isabel's 1st husband was hastened by an (unnamed) Earl carrying her off, by force or fraud. The truth of this is open to question.
(g) He left 3 sons: William - 3rd Earl, Ralph, and Rainald, ancestor of the Warennes of Wormegay; and 2 daughters: (1) Gundred, who m. 1st Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick; 2ndly, (as his 2nd wife), William de Lancaster; (2) Ada, who m. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon, s. of David I, King of Scotland, by whom she was mother of Malcolm IV and William the Lion, Kings of Scotland.
(h) Before her son William, 3rd Earl, went on crusade in June 1147.

This nobleman, William de Warrenne (Earl of Warrenne), 2nd Earl of Surrey, joined Robert de Belesmé, Earl of Arundel and Shrewsbury, in favour of Robert Curthose against Henry I, and in consequence forfeited his English earldom and estates, but those were subsequently restored to him and he was ever afterwards a good and faithful subject to King Henry. His lordship m. Isabel, dau. of Hugh the Great, Earl of Vermandois, and widow of Robert, Earl of Mellent, by whom he had issue, William, Reginald, Ralph, Gundred, and Adeline. The earl d. 11 May, 1138, and was s. by his eldest son, William de Warrenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey.

William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey (died 1138), was the son of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey and his first wife Gundred. He is more often referred to as Earl Warenne or Earl of Warenne than as Earl of Surrey.
In January 1091, William assisted Hugh of Grantmesnil (d. 1094) in his defense of Courcy against the forces of Robert de Belleme and Duke Robert.
Sometime around 1093 he tried to marry Matilda (or Edith), daughter of king Malcolm III of Scotland. She instead married Henry I of England, and this may be the cause of William's great dislike of Henry I, which was to be his apparent motivator in the following years.
He accompanied Robert Curthose (Duke Robert) in his 1101 invasion of England, and afterwards lost his English lands and titles and was exiled to Normandy. There he complained to Curthose that he expended great effort on the duke's behalf and had in return lost most of his possessions. Curthose's return to England in 1103 was apparently made to convince his brother to restore William's earldom. This was successful, though Curthose had to give up all he had received after the 1101 invasion, and subsequently William was loyal to Henry.
To further insure William's loyalty Henry considered marrying him to one of his many illegitimate daughters. He was however dissuaded by Archbishop Anselm of Canterbury, for any of the daughters would have been within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity. The precise nature of the consanguineous relationship Anselm had in mind has been much debated, but it is most likely he was referring to common descent from the father of duchess Gunnor.
William was one of the commanders on Henry's side (against Robert Curthose) at the Battle of Tinchebray in 1106. Afterwards, with his loyalty thus proven, he became more prominent in Henry's court.
In 1110, Curthose's son William Clito escaped along with Helias of Saint-Saens, and afterwards Warenne received the forfeited Saint-Saens lands, which were very near his own in upper Normandy. By this maneuver king Henry further assured his loyalty, for the successful return of Clito would mean at the very least Warenne's loss of this new territory.
He fought at the Battle of Bremule in 1119, and was at Henry's deathbed in 1135.
William's death is recorded as 11-May-1138 in the register of Lewes priory and he was buried with his father at the chapter-house there.
Elizabeth of Vermandois, Countess of Meulan apparently tired of her aging husband at some point during the marriage. The historian Planche says (1874) that the Countess was seduced by or fell in love with a younger nobleman, William de Warenne (b. ca. 1071 - d. 11 May 1138) himself the thwarted suitor of Edith of Scotland, Queen consort of Henry I of England. Warenne was said to want a royal bride, and Elizabeth fitted his requirements, even though she was also another man's wife.
In 1115, the Countess was apparently carried off or abducted by Warenne, which abduction apparently concealed a long-standing affair. There was some kind of separation or divorce between Meulan and his wife, which however did not permit her to marry her lover. The elderly Count of Meulan died, supposedly of chagrin and mortification in being thus publicly humiliated, in the Abbey of Preaux, Normandy on 5 June 1118, leaving his properties to his two elder sons whom he had carefully educated.
In 1118 William acquired the royal-blooded bride he desired when married Elizabeth de Vermandois. She was a daughter of count Hugh of Vermandois, a son of Henry I of France, and was the widow of Robert de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Leicester.
William and Elizabeth had three sons and two daughters:
? William de Warenne;
? Reginald de Warenne;
? Ralph de Warenne;
? Gundrada (Gundred) de Warenne;
? Ada de Warenne.
Note: William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey

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Note: According to Ancestral Roots, Isabel preceeded William in death in 13 Feb 1130/31--not July 1147.

(l) He had encouraged Henry to fight when William (de Tancarville) the Chamberlain urged him to retreat. His alleged speech to the King before the battle is given in "Chron. Men de Hida", pp. 316-7.

(c) According to Henry of Huntingdon [their daughter Ada's husband], the death of Isabel's 1st husband was hastened by an (unnamed) Earl carrying her off, by force or fraud. The truth of this is open to question.

(g) He left 3 sons: William - 3rd Earl, Ralph, and Rainald, ancestor of the Warennes of Wormegay; and 2 daughters: (1) Gundred, who m. 1st Roger de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Warwick; 2ndly, (as his 2nd wife), William de Lancaster; (2) Ada, who m. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon, s. of David I, King of Scotland, by whom she was mother of Malcolm IV and William the Lion, Kings of Scotland.

(h) Before her son William, 3rd Earl, went on crusade in June 1147.

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This nobleman, William de Warrenne (Earl of Warrenne), 2nd Earl of Surrey, joined Robert de Belesmé, Earl of Arundel and Shrewsbury, in favour of Robert Curthose against Henry I, and in consequence forfeited his English earldom and estates, but those were subsequently restored to him and he was ever afterwards a good and faithful subject to King Henry. His lordship m. Isabel, dau. of Hugh the Great, Earl of Vermandois, and widow of Robert, Earl of Mellent, by whom he had issue, William, Reginald, Ralph, Gundred, and Adeline. The earl d. 11 May, 1138, and was s. by his eldest son, William de Warrenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 569, Warren, Earls of Surrey]

Source:
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http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jweber&id=I12010&style=TABLE.

im Weber , WorldConnect at Rootsweb:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jweber&id=I11952

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(Research):Other names for William were William II DE WARREN and William DE WARRENNE.

Source: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Warenne-25

(Research):William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey, was the son of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey and his first wife Gundred. He is more often referred to as Earl Warenne or Earl of Warenne than as Earl of Surrey.
In January 1091, William assisted Hugh of Grantmesnil (d.1094) in his defense of Courcy against the forces of Robert de Belleme and Duke Robert. Sometime around 1093 he tried to marry Matilda (or Edith), daughter of King Malcolm III of Scotland. She instead married Henry I of England, and this may be the cause of William's great dislike of Henry I, which was to be his apparent motivator in the following years.

He accompanied Robert Curthose (Duke Robert) in his 1101 invasion of England, and afterwards lost his English lands and titles and was exiled to Normandy. There he complained to Curthose that he expended great effort on the Duke's behalf and had in return lost most of his possessions. Curthose's return to England in 1103 was apparently made to convince his brother to restore William's earldom. This was successful, though Curthose had to give up all he had received after the 1101 invasion, and subsequently William was loyal to Henry. To further insure William's loyalty Henry considered marrying him to one of his many illegitimate daughters. He was however dissuaded by Archbishop Anselm of Canterbury, for any of the daughters would have been within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity. The precise nature of the consanguineous relationship Anselm had in mind has been much debated, but it is most likely he was referring to common descent from the father of duchess Gunnor.

William was one of the commanders on Henry's side (against Robert Curthose) at the Battle of Tinchebray in 1106. Afterwards, with his loyalty thus proven, he became more prominent in Henry's court. In 1110, Curthose's son William Clito escaped along with Helias of Saint-Saens, and afterwards Warenne received the forfeited Saint-Saens lands, which were very near his own in upper Normandy. By this maneuver king Henry further assured his loyalty, for the successful return of Clito would mean at the very least Warenne's loss of this new territory. He fought at the Battle of Bremule in 1119, and was at Henry's deathbed in 1135. William's death is recorded as May 11,1138 in the register of Lewes priory and he was buried with his father at the chapter-house there.

Marriage date of 1101 is given on page 7 of "Sussex archaeological collections relating to the history and antiquities of the county", Volume XXXV, http://books.google.com/books?id=j64xAQAAIAAJ

Source: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Warenne-25

SUFFIX: Also shown as Earl of Surrey

BIRTH: Also shown as Born Abt 1071

DEATH: Also shown as Died Lewes, Sussex, England.

PREFIX: Also shown as Earl

SURNAME: Also shown as De Warren

PREFIX: Also shown as Earl/Surrey

William married Capet, Countess of Leicester, de Vermandois Elizabeth Abt 1118, France. Elizabeth (daughter of Capet, Duc de Vermandois et de Bourgogne Hugh and Capet, Comtesse de VERMANDOIS Adélaïde) was born 13 Feb 1080, Valois now Oise, Picardy, France; died 17 Feb 1146, St. Nicaise, Meulan, Desens, France; was buried 17 Feb 1131, Lewes, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet]

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Md. 2) Drew de MONCEUX.

Edith — de Gurney, Gerald. Gerald was born Abt 1082. [Group Sheet]

Edith — De Monceux, Drew. Drew was born Abt 1082. [Group Sheet]

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or is the Castle in Norfolk?

Gundred — de Colunches, Ernest. Ernest was born Abt 1083. [Group Sheet]

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!Third Earl of Warren.

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!Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families by Michel L. Call, F.G.sheet #514.

William — Talvoice, Adela (Ella) (Taluas). Adela (daughter of d'Talvace, Count/Alencon William III and Alice) was born Abt 1110/1114, of, Sussex or, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet]

William — . Unknown [Group Sheet]

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Notes:

Reginald de Warenne, who inherited his father's property in upper Normandy, including the castles of Bellencombre and Mortemer. He married Adeline, daughter of William, lord of Wormgay in Norfolk, by whom he had a son William (founder of the priory of Wormegay), whose daughter and sole heir Beatrice married first Dodo, lord Bardolf, and secondly Hubert de Burgh; Reginald was one of the persecutors of Archbishop Thomas in 1170.


Reginald de Warenne, who inherited his father's property in upper Normandy. He married Adeline, daughter of William, lord of Wormgay in Norfolk, by whom he had a son William, whose daughter and sole heir Beatrice married first Dodo, lord Bardolf, and secondly Hubert de Burgh;

Reginald de Warrenne, who marrying Alice, dau. and heir of William de Wirmgay, became Lord of Wirmgay, in Norfolk. He founded the priory of Wirmgay, and left a dau., Alice, wife of Reginald de Dunstavil, and a son, William, who m. twice, having issue only by his 1st wife, Beatrix, dau. of Hugh de Perepont, a son, Reginald, who d. s. p., and two daus., viz, Beatrix de Warren who m. 1st, Dodo Bardolf, Baron of Shelford and left a son, William Bardolf, m. 2ndly, Hubert de Burgh, Earl of Kent; Isabel, who is stated by Watson to have m. Geoffrey de Merlay. Watson, in his History of the House of Warren, corroborated by Camden and Ormerod, makes this Reginald to have m. Aldelia de Mowbray, and to have had a son, William, from whom he deduces the family of Warren, of Poynton, co. Chester. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 569, Warren, Earls of Surrey]

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Reginald — . Unknown [Group Sheet]

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Reginald — De Mowbray, Adela. Adela (daughter of De Mowbray, Roger and de Clare, Agnes Rose) was born Abt 1106. [Group Sheet]

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Gundred, elder daughter of William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey, by Elizabeth/Isabel widow of his (Roger's) uncle, Robert I de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Leicester. [Burke's Peerage]

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Gundred de Warenne, Countess of Warwick [dau. of William de Warenne & Isabel de Vermandois], widow of Roger de Newburgh; m. (2) William de Lancaster I, d. 1170, 5th Baron Kendal of Workington in Coupland, son of Gilbert, 4th Baron Kendal; he inherited an extensive fief held of the Honour of Coupland, served as castellan of William fitz Duncan's castle of Egremont in 1138, and was Governor of the Caslte of Lancaster. [Ancestral Roots, line 88-25]

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He [Roger Earl of Warwick] married Gundred, elder daughter of William (DE WARENNE), 2nd EARL OF SURREY, by Isabel (or Elizabeth), widow of Robert (DE BEAUMONT), COUNT OF MEULAN and 1st EARL OF LEICESTER, daughter of Hugh (DE CRÉPY), COUNT OF VERMANDOIS. He died in 1153. His widow married, as his 2nd wife, William DE LANCASTER, Lord of Kendal. She was living in 1166. [Complete Peerage XII/2:361-2, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Gundred/ married Roger DE BEAUMONT de Newburgh, 2nd Earl of Warwick, son of Henri I DE BEAUMONT-LE-ROGER 1st Earl of Warwick and Margaret DU PERCHE, before 1130 in England (Roger DE BEAUMONT de Newburgh, 2nd Earl of Warwick was born in 1090-1102 in Warwick, Warwickshire, England died on 12 Jun 1153 in Warwickshire, England and was buried on 20 Jun 1153.)

Gundred/ also married William DE LANCASTER 5th Baron Kendal, son of Gilbert DE LANCASTER 4th Baron of Kendal and Goditha DE TAILLEBOIS, about 1154(William DE LANCASTER 5th Baron Kendal was born about 1100 in Kendal, Westmorland, England and died in 1170 in Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Gundred/ married De Lancaster, 5th Baron Kendal William Abt 1154. William (son of De Lancaster, 4th Baron of Kendal Gilbert and De Taillebois, Goditha) was born Abt 1100, Kendal, Westmorland, England; died 1170, Lancaster, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet]

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Trafford Pedigree; Some Early English Pedigrees, British 942 D2no, page 20.

Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families, by Michael L. Call, Chart 455 - # 3

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Gundred married De Beaumont, Earl of Warwick Roger Bef 1130. Roger (son of De Beaumont, Earl/Warwick Henry and de Perche, Cts/Warwick Margaret) was born Abt 1090/1107, Warwick, Warwickshire, England; died 12 Jun 1153, , , Warwickshire, England. [Group Sheet]

Gundred married de Lancaster, Lord/Kendall William Abt 1154. William (son of de Lancaster, Gilbert and Godith) was born Abt 1115, of, , Cumberland, England; died 1170. [Group Sheet]

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Death - Date: 12 Jun 1152 Place: Huntington, Huntington, England

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He [Henry of Scotland] married Ada (or Adeline), daughter of William (de WARENNE), EARL OF SURREY, by Isabel, daughter of Hugh, COUNT OF VERMANDOIS. He died v.p., 12 June 1152, and was buried at Kelso [k]. His widow died in 1178, having in that year founded the Nunnery of Haddington. [Complete Peerage VI:642, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(Research):Alt. Birth; Abt 1117, Surrey, Kent, England.

SURNAME: Also shown as De Warren

PREFIX: Also shown as Cts/Huntingdon

BIRTH: Also shown as Born of, , Surrey, England.

GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Ada (Adelaide)

PREFIX: Also shown as Countess

BIRTH: Also shown as Born Abt 1122

DEATH: Also shown as Died Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, , England.

BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Kelso.

Ada married mac Dabíd, Earl/Huntingdon Eanric 1134. Eanric (son of mac Maíl Choluim, King of the Scots David I and Lady Matilda, son of mac Maíl Choluim, King Of Scotland Dauíd I and de Huntingdon, Matilde Maud) was born 19 Nov 1114, Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England; died 12 Jun 1152, Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland; was buried Jun 1152, Kelso Abbey, Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland. [Group Sheet]

Ada married 1139, Huntingdon, Huntingdon, England. Unknown [Group Sheet]

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Isabel — Deblois, William. William was born Oct 1160. [Group Sheet]

Isabel married Capet, Ct/Boulogne William 1153. William (son of King Of England Stephen and de Boulogne, Queen Of England Matilda) was born Abt 1134/1137, of, Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, France; died 11 Oct 1159/1160, , Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, France; was buried , , Montmorillon, Vienne, France. [Group Sheet]

Isabel married Plantagenet, Hameline Apr 1164, E. Surry., Eng.. Hameline (son of Plantagenet, Count of Anjou Geoffrey V and De Normandie, Princess/England Matlda, son of Plantagenet, Count of Anjou Geoffrey V and Concubine 1 Unknown) was born 1130, Stanwell, England; died 7 May 1202, Lewes, Sussex, England, England; was buried , Chapter House, Lewes, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet]

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William — de Percy, Maud. Maud (daughter of de Percy, William and de Clare, Adeliza) was born 1132, Alnwick, Northumberland, England; died 1203. [Group Sheet]

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Agnes — de Clinton, Geoffrey. Geoffrey was born Abt 1131. [Group Sheet]

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!Md. 1) Margery de BOHUN. Of Warwick, England.
!Trafford Pedigree; Some Early English Pedigrees, British 942 D2no p. 20.

Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families, by Michael L. Call, Chart 455 - # 1

Waleran — de Harcourt, Alice. Alice (daughter of de Harcourt, Sir Robert and De Camville, Isabel) was born Abt 1179/1181, of, Hanslap, Buckingham, England; died Aft Sep 1212. [Group Sheet]

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Gundred — Bigod, Hugh. Hugh (son of Bigod, Roger and De Toni, Adeliza) was born 1095/1112, of, Belvoir Castle, Leicester/Sufflk, England; died Bef 6 Mar 1176, Thetford Abbey, Norfolk, England; was buried , Thetford Abbey, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet]

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GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Malcolm

BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Holytrinitychuch, Dumfermlin, , Scotland.

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• Title of Nobility: King of Scotts
• Occupation: 2nd Earl of Northumberland/
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• Coronation: 9 Dec 1165
• Coronation: 24 Dec 1165
• Occupation: 24 Dec 1165, King of Scotland/

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SURNAME: Also shown as mac Eanric

GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Uilliam

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Name - Description: King William of Scotland

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Birth - Date: Abt 1143 Place: Scotland

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SURNAME: Also shown as Scotland

GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as William

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DEATH: Also shown as Died , Sterling, Stirlingshire, Scotland.

BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Abbeyof Arbroath, Arbroath, Angusshire, Scotland.

Uilliam — of Beaumont, Queen Consort of Scotland Ermengarde. [Group Sheet]

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David married Kevelioc, Cts/Huntington Maud 26 Aug 1190, of, , , Scotland. Maud (daughter of de Meschines, Earl/Chester Hugh and de Montfort, Bertrade) was born Abt 1163, of, , Cheshire, England; died 6 Jan 1233. [Group Sheet]

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• Clan Name: House of Dunkeld
• National ID: IND9479
• Title of Nobility: England; Earl of Huntingdon
• Title of Nobility: Earl of Huntingdon, Northumberland, Doncaster, Carlisle, Garioch, Cambridge & Lennox
• Title of Nobility: England; Earl Of Northumberland, Lennox, Carlisle, and Doncaster
• Title of Nobility: Prince of Scotland; Earl Of Huntingdon
• _FSFTID: LD91-P63
• _UID: AE69B01F3E823B40B2ADE05FE5B9292FB5EC
• Acceded: 1185

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Name - Description: Margery of Huntingdon

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!or died in 1201?

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Ada married van Holland, Count of Holland Floris III 4 Sep 1162, Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England. Floris (son of Van Holland, Theodric Dirk VII and Wittelsback, Sophia) was born 1141, The Hague, Netherlands; died 1 Aug 1190, Antioch, Turkey. [Group Sheet]

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• Occupation: Nun/
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Marjorie — Críst, Earl of Angus Gille. [Group Sheet]

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Margaret — de Bohun, Humphrey. Humphrey was born Abt 1150; died 1182. [Group Sheet]