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Curthose, Duke of Normandy Robert[1, 2]

Male 1054 - 1134  (80 years)


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  • Name Curthose, Robert 
    Prefix Duke of Normandy 
    Born 1054  Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    _UID 27C59788FE2D844089590C9944B2A28BA455 
    Died 10 Feb 1134  Cardiff Castle Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I7804  NewFranceGenealogy
    Last Modified 19 Apr 2017 

    Father De Normandie, King of England Guillaume I,   b. 14 Oct 1028, Falais, Calvados, or Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 7 Sep 1087, Hermentruvilleby, Rouen/S-Infr, Seine-Maritime, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 58 years) 
    Mother Baudouinides, Queen of England Matilda,   b. 1031, Caen, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 2 Nov 1083, , Caen, Calvados, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 52 years) 
    Married 1053  Castle of, Angi, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F3229  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family of Conversan, Sybilla  [1, 2
    _UID 98C4BF42E7AB0C4D940B43F18B1C4EE1F153 
    Children 
    +1. Clito, Count of Flanders William,   b. 25 Oct 1102, Rouen, Caux, Normandy Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Jul 1128, Abbey of St. Bertin, Saint-Omer, Flanders Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 25 years)  [Birth]
    Last Modified 27 May 2017 
    Family ID F3232  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Robert (called Curthose for his short squat appearance) (c. 1054 - February 10, 1134) was a Duke of Normandy. He was the eldest son of William the Conqueror and Matilda of Flanders, an unsuccessful claimant to the throne of England, and a participant in the First Crusade. His reign as Duke is noted for the discord with his brothers in England, eventually leading to the absorption of Normandy as a possession of England.
      His birthdate is usually given as 1054, but may have been in 1051.
      In his youth, he was reported to be courageous and skillful in military exercises. He was, however, also prone to a laziness and weakness of character that discontented nobles and the King of France exploited to stir discord with his father William.
      In 1077, he instigated his first insurrection against his father as the result of a prank played by his younger brothers William Rufus and Henry, who had poured water through the floor into Robert's chambers. As a result of the insult, Robert attempted to seize the castle of Rouen and afterwards spent several years wandering in aimless fighting before being reconciled with his father.
      In 1087, the father died, having divided the Norman dominions between his two eldest sons. To Robert, he granted the Duchy of Normandy and to William Rufus he granted the Kingdom of England. Of the two sons, Robert was considered to be much the weaker and was generally preferred by the nobles who held lands on both sides of the English Channel, since they could more easily circumvent his authority. At the time of their father's death, the two brothers made an agreement to be each other's heir. However, this peace lasted less than a year when barons joined with Robert to displace Rufus in the Rebellion of 1088. It was not a success, in part because Robert never showed up to support the English rebels.
      Robert married Sybil, daughter of Geoffrey of Brindisi, Count of Conversano (and a grandniece of Robert Guiscard). Their son, William Clito, was born October 25 1102 and became heir to the Duchy of Normandy. Sybil, who was admired and often praised by the chroniclers of the time, died shortly after the birth. William of Malmesbury claims she died as a result of binding her breasts too tightly; both Robert of Torigny and Orderic Vitalis suggest she was murdered by a cabal of noblewomen led by her husband's mistress, Agnes Giffard.
      Robert took as his close advisor Ranulf Flambard, who had been previously a close advisor to this father.
      In 1096, Robert left for the Holy Land on the First Crusade. At the time of his departure he was reportedly so poor that he often had to stay in bed for lack of clothes. In order to raise money for the crusade, he mortaged his duchy to his brother William for the sum of 10,000 marks.
      He had agreed with William II to name each other the Heir Presumptive of England and Normandy respectively. When William II died on August 2, 1100, Robert should have inherited the throne of England. But he was on his return journey from the Crusade, allowing their younger brother Henry to seize the crown of England for himself. Upon his return, Robert, urged by Flambard, led an invasion of England to retake the crown from his brother Henry. In 1101, Robert landed at Portsmouth with his army, but his lack of popular support among the English enabled Henry to resist the invasion. Robert was forced by diplomacy to renounce his claim to the English throne in the Treaty of Alton.
      In 1105, however, Robert's continual stirring of discord with his brother in England prompted Henry to invade Normandy. In the next year, Henry defeated Robert's army decisively at the Battle of Tinchebray and claimed Normandy as a possession of the English crown, a situation that endured for almost a century. Captured after the battle, Robert was imprisoned for the rest of his life.
      In 1134, he died while imprisoned in Cardiff Castle. He was buried in the abbey church of St. Peter in Gloucester, where an elaborate sepulchre was later built. The church subsequently has become Gloucester Cathedral.

  • Sources 
    1. [S178] GEDCOM File : GED royal92.ged, Denis R. Reid, 20 Nov 1992.

    2. [S80] Douglas Wilmot Harnden Ancestors, Daniel Harnden, (daniel_harnden@yahoo.com) (Reliability: 2), 2 May 2009.
      This Harnden line is proven back to Richard b. 1648 beyond that it's speculative.


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