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- AKA Azalais, Adèle
The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 30 Jul 2000, by Todd A Farmerie:
From: Todd A. Farmerie (farmerie AT interfold.com)
Subject: Re: Adelaide d'Anjou (was Tiburge d'Orange)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/07/30
TatjanaAV wrote:
>
> >Blanche appears to have been more of a nickname. She is better known as
> >Adelaide, wife of Stephen of Gevaudan, Raymond of Toulouse, Louis V of
> >France, and William of Provence.
>
> So... This Adelaide was indeed married to Raymond de Toulouse? I've seen this
> in only one account--all others do not have Raymond in the genealogy at all
> (Guillaume III is recorded as the son Raymond III Pons de Toulouse and Garsinde
> de Rouergue).
Yes. This was only recently rediscovered. There is a surviving charter in which Guillaume names his wife Emma and mother Adelaide, and there is every reason to think this was the same Adelaide, known to have married "Count Raimond". The chronology is aufully long to have William a son of Raymond Pons as well, and the near-contemporary Roda Codex gives Raymond Pons no son William, but does give him a son Raymond. These make it evident that a reworking is in order.
> When were Adelaide's parents married? I've seen it as 937, when
> she was supposedly born in 930, and has Guillaume III in 947.
I don't think there is enough information to provide such a date. Certainly both of them you give are nothing more than guesses, and need to be adjusted. As to William's birth, this date is wrong, based on his mistaken placement as son of Raymond Pons. A more recent guess is about 975.
> Who are ALL of her children (with the correct fathers)?
Stasser gives her the following:
by Etienne de Brioude:
1. Pons de Gevaudan
2. Bertrand de Brioude
3. Etienne de Brioude
4. Ermengarde/Humberge, Countess of Auvergne
5?. daughter, wife of Herbert of Troyes
by Raymond:
6. Guillaume Taillefer
7?. Toda/Adelaide, Countess of Besalu (I question this one)
8?. Letgarde
by Guillaume II of Provence:
9. Guillaume III
10. Constance, Queen of France
taf
Source: Jim Weber , WorldConnect at Rootsweb:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jweber&id=I15991&style=TABLE.
(Research):Ad?la?de married ?tienne II DE G?VAUDAN, son of Bertrand I DE G?VAUDAN and Emildis. (?tienne II DE G?VAUDAN was born about 940 in Brioude, Haute-Loire, Auvergne, France and died before 972 in Gévaudan, Alpes-de-Haute-Provence, Provence, France.)
Adélaïde also married Cte Raymond V Taillefer DE TOULOUSE about 972 . (Cte Raymond V Taillefer DE TOULOUSE was born in 947 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France and died about 990.)
Adélaïde also married Louis V "The Do-Nothing" CAROLING King of the Franks, son of Lothair CAROLING King of France and Emma of Italy, in 982 in 3rd husband - divorced 984 (Louis V "The Do-Nothing" CAROLING King of the Franks was born in 967 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France and died bET 21 AND 22 MAY 987 in (dsp)
Adélaïde also married Guillaume I (II) "le Libérateur" DE PROVENCE comte d'Arles & Provence, son of Boso(n) II D' ARLES comte d'Avignon & Arles and Constance (Constantia) DE PROVENCE comtesse de Vienne, after 984 (Guillaume I (II) "le Libérateur" DE PROVENCE comte d'Arles & Provence was born in 950 in Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence, France and died after 29 Aug 993 in Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence, France
SURNAME: Also shown as D'Anjou
GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Arsinde (Blanche)
BIRTH: Also shown as Born of, Anjou, France.
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