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Email received Sept. 9, 1998 from Barbara Spain, BLBSJOS@aol.com

Joyce: I received your e-mail about the Drapers, specifically, your Gideon,
and his parents, Nathan and Joanna Robards. Yes, Nathan and Joanna are my
ancestors, too. My descent is through their daughter, Joanna, who married
Samuel Harnden.
I find it interesting that you used the spelling "Robards." I have seen that
used a couple times, but I have usually seen it spelled "Roberts." Do you
have reason to believe the name was actually "Robards?" Probably most
research we would do would list the two spellings as one family; but one never
knows for sure.
You say that you have a Nathan and a Nathan Jr. in the 1790 Census for
Washington Co., NY and you wonder if this is the Nathan who married Joanna. I
am almost certain that it is. I, too, have seen that Census, and almost all
the Drapers were in NY at that time, as was Samuel Harnden, who my Joanna
married. You probably noticed, as I did, that in 1790, James, Nathan, and
Nathan, Jr., were all living in a row, with Nathaniel a few houses away and
Samuel Harnden a few houses away from the Drapers. Jonathan Harnden was
there, too. I'm not sure how Jonathan was related to my Samuel.
Another interesting piece of information is that Nathaniel Draper, son of
Nathan and Joanna, married a Hannah Roberts in 1779. She was probably related to Joanna in some way, besides the fact that Hannah was Joanna's daughter-in-law.
You ask if I can shed any light on death dates for Nathan and Joanna.
Unfortunately, I cannot. I do know that they were married on 18 January, 1748
in Killingly, CT. But their death dates and places are unknown to me.
You say your Gideon died in Union Co., Ohio. Was he buried there as well? I have recorded that Gideon, Nathan, Jr., and Ruben, all served in the Dutchess County, NY, Militia, and that their brother John served in the Albany County,
Ny, Militia. Perhaps that is something you can add to your records.
I was glad to hear from you, and I hope we can stay in touch by e-mail.
Barbara Spain

Johanna married Harnden, CPT Samuel 15 Feb 1776, Killingly, Windham, CT. Samuel (son of Harnden, SGT Jonathan and Phebe) was born 28 Jun 1751, Wilmington, Middlesex, MA, USA; died Aft 1820, Granville, Washington, NY, USA. [Group Sheet]

1. Harnden was born 1776; died 1807.
2. Harnden, Ziba was born 9 Feb 1778, Pomfret, Windham, CT, USA; died 7 Dec 1835, Halimand (Holdeman), ON, Canada; was buried , Fairview Cemetery, Grafton, ON, Canada.
3. Harnden, Zadock J. was born 22 May 1779, Pomfret, Windham, CT, USA; died 17 Dec 1871, Salem, ON, Canada; was buried , Salem Cemetery, Salem, ON, Canada.
4. Harnden, Sarah was born 19 Sep 1780, Pomfret, Windham, CT, USA; died 21 May 1849, Port Byron, Mentz, Cayuga, NY, USA; was buried , (King Plot) Mount Pleasannt Cemetery, Porrt Byron, NY, USA.
5. Harnden, William was born 19 Sep 1780, Pomfret, Windham, CT, USA; died , New York?.
6. Harnden, Luther was born 17 Nov 1782, NY, USA; died 24 May 1876, Canada; was buried , Harnden Cemetery: Raglan, Ontario Co., ON.
7. Harnden, Orbin (Urban) Robert was born 1785, NY, USA.
8. Harnden, Simon was born 20 Apr 1788, NY, USA; died 21 Jul 1826, Victory, Cayuga, NY; was buried 1826, Victory Village Cemetery, NY.
9. Harnden, Samuel Jr. was born 20 Apr 1790, Granville, Washington, NY, USA; died 30 Nov 1873, Port Byron, Mentz, Cayuga, NY; was buried , Mount Pleasant Cemetery, Port Byron, Cayuga, NY.

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In the Book, Drapers in America, is this notation...under the listing of Gideon and Abigail Aldis Drapers children.

Nathan, b. Apr. 9, 1725; Lived in Shaftesbury.


email from Elwin Draper
Joyce and Margaret,

I will send this info to both of you at once since I think you would both be
interested.

In looking back through some old notes, I found that I had copied some info
from the 1790 NY Census in Washington Co. On page 188, in Granville Twp.,
the following three Draper families are listed consecutively: James (1
adult male, 2 males under 16, 1 female); Nathan (1-1-2), Nathan; Jr.
(1-0-3). 12 visits away is Nathaniel Draper (1-2-5). Granville, NY, is
perhaps 30 miles north and slightly west of Shaftsbury, VT.

File this under "For What It's Worth". May be of some importance in later
research.

Elwyn


1800 Washington Co., NY Census, Granville Twp.

James Draper 00211-01011-00 # 535
John Draper 01010-10110-00 483
Jonatn Draper 23101-01201-00 584
Nathnl Draper 31101-22210-00 536
Sam'l Draper 10100-20100-00 457
Solmn Draper 12010-20110-00 487

Nathan married Roberts, Johanna 18 Jan 1747, Killingly, Windham Co., CT. Johanna was born 1725, Killingly, Windham, CT, USA. [Group Sheet]

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There is this footnote to Gideon in Drapers to America

"In reference to the descendants of Gideon Draper, the author desires to say, that they have become so widely scattered, and the majority are so indifferent to genealogical matters, that it has been with the utmost difficulty that any connecting lines could be established. The use so generally, in this branch, of the name of Gideon, has also tended to greatly confuse and delay the work, and it may be said that at least three times as much labor has been done to collect the following date as that devoted to any other branch of the family, and if there are errors, the reader will please blame those whose duty it was to supply the information, and who neglected to do so, although repeatedly urged."


Posted by Elwyn D. Draper on December 11, 1998 at 23:05:34 to Draper GenForum

Several children of Gideon Draper [18.] and Abigail Aldis ventured to VT. James [1294.]d. in Shaftsbury, VT in 1806. Nathan [1299.]and much of his family moved from Killingly CT to Shaftsbury as well. Gideon [1297.] had a son, William [1303.], who dabbled in real estate in Rupert VT in the 1770's. William's brother, David [1322.], had 2 sons who eventually moved from Erie Co., NY to Dunham, Lower Canada (Quebec), which is just across the border from VT.

Gideon married Aldis, Abigail 22 Apr 1713, Roxbury (now Boston) Suffolk, MA, New England. Abigail (daughter of Aldis, John and Winchester, Mary) was born 1692, Dedham, Norfolk Co., MA, New England; died Sep 1750, Killingly, Windham Co., CT, New England. [Group Sheet]

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2 PLAC Military Rec.: King Philip's War, 1675-76


From Drapers in America

James was a soldier in the King Phillip War during the year 1675. James recieved from his father, part of the family farm in Roxbury. This he sold to John Aldis and he then bought the estate below Baker Street where he and his wife kept and ordinary. the location of theis is fixed by James' Granddaughter, Jemima Turner. Her father, Ebenezer, when she was a girl, took her to visit the old house where he was born. (She related this to Dr. A. W. Draper.) It was from here that James and Exbenezer went to Green Lodge, Dedham.

James was mortally injured during a wrestling match on May Day. As was the custom in England, this day was reserved for a festival, at which a maypole was erected, about which wrestling, pitching quoits
and other games were held. On that day, an individual arrived at the maypole and declared himself the wrestling champion and took on all comers, all of whom he threw to the ground. The crowd was commenting that James Draper would be a good match for the man. No sooner said than James and his wife Abigail arrived together on horseback. James was urged to wrestle the champion. At first he declined, but was dragged from his horse, despite Abigail's attempts to keep him from being taken.

He met the champion, and after having been given the signal, threw him to the ground. "Unfair" was cried by the bested man, and another match was declared. Again, he won the match. However, he severely broke the sinew in his leg and never recovered. James was carried back to his house and was never able to go out again.

James and Abigail are buried in First Parish Cemetery, Dedham, MA,
Their epitaph reads:

2 Samuel 1: 23. They were lovely & pleasant in their lives and in their death they were not divided.

"The stroke of death, hath laid my head
Down in this dark & silent bed,
The Trump shall sound, I hope to rise,
And meet my Saviour in the Skies."

James death is recorded iIn the Roxbury Vital records. He is referred to as Sergt.

James married Whiting, Abigail 18 Feb 1680, Roxbury, Suffolk Co., MA, USA. Abigail (daughter of Whiting, Nathaniel and Dwight, Hannah) was born 7 Jun 1663, Dedham, Norfolk Co., MA, New England; died 25 Oct 1721, Roxbury, Suffolk Co., MA, New England; was buried Oct 1721, First Parish Cemetery, Dedham, Norfolk Co., MA, New England. [Group Sheet]

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First Parish Cemetery, Dedham, MA, epitaph:

2 Samuel 1: 23. They were lovely & pleasant in their lives and in their death they were not divided.

"The stroke of death, hath laid my head
Down in this dark & silant bed,
The Trump shall sound, I hope to rise,
And meet my Saviour in the Skies."

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• Baptism: 18 Feb 1654/1655, Dedham, Norfolk Co., MA, USA

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WRENTHAM was first settled in 1660 by settlers from Dedham and was then known by the Indian name of Wollomonopoag.
October 15, 1673, land was granted to the inhabitants of Wollomonopoag and the town was incorporated under the name of Wrentham.
The town was afterwards temporarily abandoned, and in the first volume of vital records it is recorded that on March 30, 1676, "ye Inhabitance ware drawn of by Rason of ye Indien warrs." The same record further states that in 1680 Rev. Mr. Man and divers inhabitants returned to Wrentham.

John married Winchester, Mary 23 May 1682, Wrentham, Roxbury, Dedham. Mary was born 1653; died 13 Dec 1730, Roxbury, Suffolk Co., MA, USA. [Group Sheet]

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Mary Winchester, the wife of John Aldis, was probably the widow of Jonathan Winchester, who joined the Roxbury Church in 1677 and died two years later in Roxbury. Mary, the widow of Jonathan Winchester, was received into full communion in 1681.

From NEHGR, 1924, Vol. 78, p. 10 and 11.

Jonathan Wiinchester, son of John, died 8 May 1678/9. He married Mary___, who married secondly, at Wrentham, 23 May 1682, John Aldis, by whom she had one son and five daughters. John and Mary Aldis lived five years in Wrentham and afterwards in West roxbury, near the Dedham line. (Cf. Register, Vol. 4, p. 85, and Dedham Historical Register, Vol. 14, p. 62 for the Aldis family.)

Mary Winchester, widow of Jonathan, was appointed 29 April, 1679 administratrix of the estate of her late husband, which was appriased at L30. 7s. 6d. and consisted chiefly of 8 acres of land at Muddy River.

Three entries in the Roxbury church records are as follows

"1677 month 3 day 6 Jonathan Winchester, Mary his wife, both received to land hold on the Covenant"
"1679 month 1 day 8 Jonathan Winchester, died of a feav."
"1681-1-27 Mary widdow Winchester this day received to the full comunion of the Church."

They had one child, Mary, born after 1671, as under her grandfathers will of 1691 she was to receive 8 or 10 acres of land at Muddy River "when shee shall accomplish the age of 20 years."