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• AFN: 8XJ9-TD
• _FSFTID: LDMR-MJS
• _UID: 5554AA1E178D2240B083A97D559D303A2C06

Constance married de Laferte-Gaucher, Godefroi (Gottfried) Abt 1100. Godefroi was born Abt 1067. [Group Sheet]

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• AFN: 8XJ9-QV
• Burial: St Paul De Tarse
• _FSFTID: LDMR-MF5
• _UID: 7C030B6B090341EDB6C419623D0DD0A4E24D
• _UID: 7E775CF8EEB0C74AB91B3D4FC1D5FF7B680B
• _UID: E3EF3B9D6EB0E748BD661E9202AF3EEEA769
• Birth: Abt 1050/1057, of, Vermandois, Normandy, France

Notes:

Hugh DE CR?PI (styled "the Great"), COUNT OF VERMANDOIS (younger son of HENRY I, KING OF FRANCE), m. Adelaide, daughter and heir of Herbert, COUNT OF VERMANDOIS and VALOIS. [Complete Peerage]
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Marquis Orleans, Count Amiens, Paris, Valois, & Vermandois

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Leo van de Pas' data base has Hugh d. 1102, but Chris Phillips seems to have the better source, which he gives below in response to a request from Leo, on SGM, 22 Jan 2004:

of Vermandois

!Trafford Pedigree; Some Early English Pedigrees, British 942 D2no, page 20.

From: Chris Phillips (cgp AT medievalgenealogy.org.uk)
Subject: Re: When DID he die?
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2004-01-22 00:38:39 PST

Runciman on that page, in a chapter on "The Crusades of 1101", describes the Battle of Heraclea, early September 1101, and says this of Hugh: "Hugh of Vermandois was badly wounded in the battle; but some of his men rescued him and he too reached Tarsus. But he was a dying man. His death took place on 18 October and they buried him there in the Cathedral of St Paul. He never fulfilled his vow to go to Jerusalem."

Runciman's sources for this section are "Albert of Aix, VIII, 34-40, pp. 579-82 (the only full source); Ekkehard, XXIV-XXVI, pp. 30-2". If you'd like to follow this to source, both these are available on the gallica website, in the "Recueil des historiens des croisades series" - put these numbers into the "Recherche libre" field on the search page: N051574 for Albert; N051575 for Ekkehard.

Chris Phillips

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The following post from Nathaniel Taylor, 22 Jan 2004, gives the story behind the battle which caused Hugh's death:

Well, it was I who first first posted the death date & circumstances on Hugh of Vermandois when I started this whole messy thread. But the 1101 date is clearly correct, because Hugh died of wounds after the battle in which a Crusader force was annihilated at Heraklea (Asia Minor) in late September of 1101. There is no mistaking the year, in the chronology of the first Crusade's aftermath. Runciman (2:28-29) does not provide a precise date for that battle, but it was one of three major failures of Western forces the Summer and Fall of 1101. See generally his _History of the Crusades_, vol. 2, chapter 2, "The Crusades of 1101." On the battle at Heraklea, he says:

"Early in September they [see below] entered Heraclea, which they found deserted as Konya had been. Just beyond the town flowed the river, one of the few Anatolian streams to flow abundantly throughout the summer. The Christian warriors, half-mad from thirst, broke their ranks to rush to the welcoming water. But the Turkish army lay concealed in the thickets on the river banks. As the crusaders surged on in disorder, the Turks sprang out on them and surrounded them. There was no time to reform ranks. Panic spread through the Christian army. Horsemen and infantry were mixed in a dreadful stampede; and as they stumbled in their attempt to flee they were slaughtered by the enemy. The duke of Aquitaine, followed by one of his grooms, cut his way out and rode into the mountains. After many days of wandering through the passes he found his way to Tarsus. Hugh of Vermandois was badly wounded in the battle; but some of his men rescued him and he too reached Tarsus. But he was a dying man. His death took place on 18 October and they buried him there in the Cathedral of St Paul. He never fulfilled his vow to go to Jerusalem. Welf of Bavaria only escaped by throwing away all his armer. After several weeks he arrived with two or three attendants at Antioch. Archbishop Thiemo [of Salzburg] was taken prisoner and martyred for his faith. The fate of the Margravine of Austria is unknown. Later legends said that she ended her days ia captive in a far-off harem, where she gave birth to the Moslem hero Zengi. More probably she was thrown from her litter in the panic and trampled to death."

trampled to death."

Runciman cites Albert of Aachen, 8.34-40 (pp. 579-82 in the edition he cites); and Ekkehard, 24-26 (pp. 30-32), among other material on the legend of the the Margravine of Austria, etc.

Nat Taylor

(Research):Another name for Hugh was Hugues I "le Grand", Comte de VERMANDOIS.

SURNAME: Also shown as Crepi

GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Hugh Magnes de

FamilySearch showed this additional information:
Birth - Date: 1057 Place: Vermandois, Normandy, France

Hugh married Capet, Comtesse de VERMANDOIS Adélaïde Abt 1064, France. Adélaïde (daughter of De Vermandois, Count Herbert IV / V and de Valois (Vexin), Adele) was born Abt 1065, Valois, Bretagne, France; died 23 Sep 1120, Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France. [Group Sheet]

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• AFN: 8XJ9-R2
• _FSFTID: 99CK-VH2
• _UID: 78DA7772AF0BE148BCF2D45693CA6035E854
• _UID: CBEA2F0085AE4CB19AAD2D2ED53D44DFEBD0

Notes:

Adelaide, daughter and heir of Herbert, COUNT OF VERMANDOIS and VALOIS. [Complete Peerage

(Research):Ad?le married Hugh "Magnus" CAPET Duc de Vermandois & Bourgogne, son of Henri I CAPET King of the Franks and Anna Agnesa Yaroslavna RURIK Grand Duchess of Kiev, in 1067 in France (Hugh "Magnus" CAPET Duc de Vermandois & Bourgogne was born in 1053 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France , died on 18 Oct 1101 in Tarsus, , Cilicie and was buried in Cathedral of St. Paul de Tarse, Turkey.)

Adèle also married Cte Renaud (Reinald) II DE CLERMONT-EN-BEAUVAISIS, son of Hugh DE CREIL comte de Clermont and Margaret (Marguerite) DE MONTDIDIER, in 1103 in 2nd husband 1st wife (Cte Renaud (Reinald) II DE CLERMONT-EN-BEAUVAISIS was born about 1080 in Clermont-en-Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France and died in 1162

Death place also given as Meulan, D-Sens, France.

SURNAME: Also shown as Vermandois

GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Adele (Adelaide) Countess of

BIRTH: Also shown as Born Abt 1050/1061

DEATH: Also shown as Died Vermandois, Normandy, France.

FamilySearch showed this additional information:
Death - Date: 28 Sep 1120

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• AFN: 8XJC-GR
• _UID: 3CE9FE30878C496CA018D32D29350882BB09
• _UID: D9E5E753759D1742AA4DFC1B0A19D75BC69D

Notes:

From Encyclopedia Britannica Online, article entitled Henry I:

"Henry was anointed king at Reims (1026) in his father's lifetime, following the death of his elder brother Hugh. His mother, Constance, however, favoured his younger brother Robert for the throne, and civil war broke out on King Robert II's death (1031). The younger Robert was given Burgundy in 1032, after Henry had sought refuge with Robert, Duke of Normandy. From 1033 to 1043 Henry struggled with his eudatories, notably Eudes of Blois and his brother Robert. In 1055, as the result of an agreement made by Robert II, the county of Sens came to the crown as the sole territorial gain of Henry's reign.

"Henry helped William (the future William I of England), Robert's successor as duke of Normandy, to quell his rebellious vassals at the Battle of Val-aux-Dunes (or Val-âaes-Dunes; 1047), but he was thereafter usually at war with him--a notable defeat for the king being that at Varaville (1058). Henry tried to resist papal interference but could not prevent Pope Leo IX from holding a council at Reims (1049). Philip, elder son of Henry's marriage to a Russian princess, was crowned in 1059. "

(Research):1. Alt. Birth; 1005.
2. Alt. Birth; Abt 1008.
3. Alt. Death; 4 Aug 1060.
4. Ruled: 1031-1060.

GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Henri I

SUFFIX: Also shown as King of the Franks

BIRTH: Also shown as Born Abt 1005/1006, of, Reims, or Bourgogne, France.

DEATH: Also shown as Died Vitry, Brie, , France.

DEATH: Also shown as Died 02 Aug 1060

BURIAL: Also shown as Buried St Denis Abbey, Seine, Ile-de-France, France.

Henry married Rurik, Grand Duchess of Kiev Anna Agnesa Yaroslavna 20 Jan 1043/1044, France. Anna was born 1036, Kiev, Ukraine; died 1076/1089, France; was buried , Abbaye De Villiers, La-Ferte-Alais, France. [Group Sheet]

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• _UID: 01507C0A90E540D89432EA59EC0E03AA147A

Notes:

(Research):Anna married Henri I CAPET King of the Franks, son of Robert II "Le Pieux" CAPET King of the Franks and Constance Taillefer DE TOULOUSE Queen of France, on 20 Jan 1043-1044 in , , , France(Henri I CAPET King of the Franks was born on 18 Sep 1008 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France died on 2 Aug 1060 in Vitry-aux-Loges, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France and was buried in St Denis Abbey, Seine, Ile-de-France, France

Anna also married Cte Raoul III "Le Grand" DE VEXIN comte de Valois et Vexin, son of Comte Raoul II DE VEXIN and Adèle DE BRETEUIL, in 1061 in 2nd husband 3rd wife(Cte Raoul III "Le Grand" DE VEXIN comte de Valois et Vexin was born about 1015 in Vexin, Seine Inferieure, Normandy, France, died on 23 Feb 1073-1074 in Peronne, Somme, Picardy, France and was buried in Crepy, Artois/Pas-de-Calais, France.)

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• AFN: 8XJK-Q0
• _UID: 7888CF0039768B4281C56738889A0F399A7A
• _UID: 876DA18EA10F4A03B1C8CEB17EF68ADCF21A
• _UID: F7E22301BA14E844895EBD601305E6A8A1A4

Notes:

!Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families by Michel L. Call.

. King of France (996- )

(Research):obert also married Bertha DES DEUX-BOURGOGNES, daughter of King Conrad I "the Peaceful" DE BOURGOGNE and Mahaut (Mathild) CAROLING of France, in 996. The marriage ended in divorce in May 1003. (Bertha DES DEUX-BOURGOGNES was born about 964 in Toulouse, France and died in 1032 in Melun, France

Robert also married Constance Taillefer DE TOULOUSE Queen of France, daughter of Guillaume I (II) "le Libérateur" DE PROVENCE comte d'Arles & Provence and Adélaïde (Azalais, Adèle) D' ANJOU, in 998 in France (Constance Taillefer DE TOULOUSE Queen of France was born about 986 in Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur, FRA died on 25 Jul 1032 in Meulan, Yvelines, Ile-de-France, France nd was buried in St Denis Abbey, Ile-de-France, France.)

PREFIX: Also shown as King of the Franks

BIRTH: Also shown as Born of, Orleans, , France.

DEATH: Also shown as Died , Melun.

BURIAL: Also shown as Buried St. Denis.

SURNAME: Also shown as of France

Robert married De Toulouse, Queen/France / Princess Of Scotland Constance 998, France. Constance (daughter of De Toulouse, comte d'Arles & Provence Guillaume III and d' Anjou, Cts/Toulouse Adélaïde) was born Abt 974, Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur, France; died 25 Jul 1032, Meulan, Yvelines, Ile-de-France, France; was buried , St Denis Abbey, Ile-de-France, France.). [Group Sheet]

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• AFN: 9G84-SR
• _UID: 13A65BC2F0534222994E261C3B3BFE4A6492
• _UID: 2A5E04FEB6A9BB41B94B4357F909EC37A8CA

Notes:

GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Constance Taillefer

PREFIX: Also shown as Queen of France

BIRTH: Also shown as Born of, Toulouse, , France.

BIRTH: Also shown as Born Abt 986

DEATH: Also shown as Died , Melun.

BURIAL: Also shown as Buried St Denis Abbey.